15:03:31 <anteaya> #startmeeting third-party
15:03:32 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 10 15:03:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:03:33 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:03:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'third_party'
15:03:58 <anteaya> hello
15:04:02 <wznoinsk> hi
15:04:09 <eantyshev> hello!
15:04:10 <anteaya> how are you wznoinsk?
15:04:14 <anteaya> hi eantyshev
15:04:36 <anteaya> what shall we discuss today?
15:04:39 <wznoinsk> good, thanks, coming to talk on one open topic after agenda
15:04:54 <anteaya> sure, well only agenda is what you bring
15:05:07 <anteaya> do share the topic matter you would like to discuss
15:05:25 <eantyshev> have a couple questions too
15:05:59 <wznoinsk> wanted to check whether my request to get voting rights for intel-networking-ci can be processed or is it pending neutron cores follow up
15:07:12 <eantyshev> are there any third-party CI dashboards hosted anywhere?
15:07:18 <anteaya> let's let wznoinsk go first, eantyshev and then your turn
15:07:28 <anteaya> so first of all voting isn't a right, it is a permission
15:07:47 <anteaya> and neutron has made all third party ci testing voluntary not complsory
15:08:20 <anteaya> and if memory serves had put a motion forward to revoke voting permissions from all cis reporting on neutron patches
15:09:11 <wznoinsk> anteaya: apologies, I've went to archives of ML and see a follow up, somehow missed my attention in my inbox
15:09:31 <anteaya> wznoinsk: so are you asking for permissions from neutron or from nova?
15:09:35 <anteaya> or both
15:09:53 <wznoinsk> neutron for now, nova is in progress of bringing the ci up
15:10:11 <wznoinsk> ok, I see the neutron ci patch from Kyle here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207198/
15:10:38 <anteaya> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207198/
15:10:51 <wznoinsk> I'll wait for the resolution there, no question for this forum then
15:11:06 <anteaya> wznoinsk: mestery says they discussed it last week at the weekly meeting and will do so again this week
15:11:21 <anteaya> wznoinsk: please consider reviewing the patch and attending the meeting
15:12:10 <anteaya> anything more on this topic?
15:12:38 <anteaya> shall we move on to eantyshev's questions?
15:13:20 <anteaya> eantyshev: you would like to discuss third party dashboards
15:13:56 <eantyshev> anteaya: yes
15:14:33 <anteaya> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194437/
15:14:43 <anteaya> well this is the current direction being offered
15:15:06 <anteaya> and there is an actual tool that folks use, patrickeast's tool
15:15:36 <anteaya> however, the obstacle to actually having infra hosting it is the confusion over what tool is intended
15:15:56 <anteaya> so while I and I do believe the rest of infra would very much like to host a tool
15:16:05 <anteaya> until certain folks make up their mind, we can't
15:16:19 <anteaya> so I personally would really like a clear decision
15:16:24 <anteaya> so something can be hosted
15:16:40 <anteaya> so that doesn't help you much
15:16:45 <anteaya> and for that I am sorry
15:16:54 <anteaya> as I would really like to be able to point you at something
15:16:57 <anteaya> but I can't
15:17:19 <anteaya> and honestly don't have much hope for when or if that is something that is going to happen in the future
15:17:23 <eantyshev> I wanted some sources as a starting point to establish our own dashboard
15:17:34 <anteaya> I suggest patrickeast's tool
15:18:05 <eantyshev> this one https://github.com/patrick-east/scoreboard ?
15:18:05 <anteaya> stackforge/third-party-ci-tools/tree/master/monitoring/scoreboard
15:18:19 <anteaya> I think that is the same code yes
15:18:25 <eantyshev> ok, they are identical
15:18:33 <eantyshev> so thank you
15:18:36 <anteaya> yay for consistentcy
15:18:39 <anteaya> welcome
15:18:41 <anteaya> thanks for asking
15:19:12 <eantyshev> may I ask another question now?
15:19:16 <anteaya> ask away
15:19:52 <eantyshev> we use diskimage-builder in our CI to build centos7 images
15:20:14 <anteaya> yay
15:20:22 <anteaya> thank you
15:20:37 <eantyshev> last week it started failing saying: package grub2-1:2.02-0.16.el7.centos.x86_64 is already installed
15:21:19 <anteaya> interesting
15:22:03 <eantyshev> I've come up with a solution, in case it is general problem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211124/
15:22:18 <anteaya> ah thank you
15:22:37 <eantyshev> looking for people who would like to review
15:23:06 <jeblair> ah yeah we should ask ianw and pabelanger to look at that
15:23:06 <anteaya> ah I see, sorry I had thought you were asking for a solution, rather than offering one
15:23:15 <anteaya> jeblair: thank you
15:23:23 <jeblair> they may not regularly review the dib project itself, so we should point it out to them
15:23:29 <anteaya> eantyshev: there is a spare whitespace in that patch
15:23:49 <anteaya> jeblair: wonderful
15:24:31 <anteaya> eantyshev: so thank you, we are grateful for your patch
15:24:42 <eantyshev> anteaya: I didn't noticed, will remove it
15:24:53 <anteaya> eantyshev: the red block in the patch
15:25:49 <eantyshev> that's all from me
15:26:00 <anteaya> eantyshev: wonderful, thank you so much for your dib patch
15:26:07 <anteaya> and for using disk image builder
15:26:33 <anteaya> eantyshev: if I recall correctly, you were compiling some notes on your installation of disk image builder to share with others
15:26:45 <anteaya> am I remembering that correctly?
15:26:59 <eantyshev> anteaya: I afraid not me
15:27:04 <anteaya> ah okay sorry
15:27:25 <anteaya> we are encouraging third party ci operators to use disk image builder
15:27:32 <anteaya> so thanks for letting us know you are
15:27:50 <anteaya> anything more on this topic?
15:27:53 <eantyshev> by the way, I thought almost every CI uses diskimage-builder and nodepool
15:28:07 <anteaya> nodepool many do
15:28:26 <anteaya> I don't know the informal statistics on disk image builder usage
15:28:33 <anteaya> and some folks don't use nodepool
15:29:17 <anteaya> we really don't have any way to track what tools folks use
15:29:23 <anteaya> just go by what they tell us
15:29:46 <anteaya> do we have anything else to discuss today?
15:29:56 <eantyshev> So, looks like diskimage-builder is inevitable if only they test in VMs
15:30:34 <anteaya> well my version of inevitable and someone else's version of inevitable may or may not match up
15:30:54 <anteaya> I can't predict how someone else justifies their tool choices
15:31:03 <eantyshev> :) right
15:31:06 <anteaya> :)
15:31:37 <anteaya> anything more for today?
15:32:22 <eantyshev> nope
15:32:33 <anteaya> eantyshev: you have a review on 211124
15:32:52 <anteaya> so unless someone speaks up to stop me, I shall close today's meeting
15:33:06 <anteaya> thanks to everyone for your attendance and kind participation
15:33:24 <anteaya> see you next week
15:33:30 <anteaya> #endmeeting