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15:02:21 <anteaya> hello
15:02:35 <ctlaugh_> hi
15:02:41 <anteaya> morning ctlaugh_
15:02:53 <anteaya> or appropriate time of day for you
15:02:57 <ctlaugh_> :)
15:03:01 <anteaya> :)
15:03:01 <asselin_> hi
15:03:11 <anteaya> morning asselin_
15:03:19 * anteaya knows it is morning for asselin_
15:03:24 <ameade> o/
15:03:34 <akerr> o/
15:03:34 <anteaya> hey ameade
15:03:35 <lennyb> hi
15:03:35 <asselin_> good morning :) happy monday :)
15:03:39 <krtaylor> o/
15:03:40 <anteaya> and to you
15:03:51 <anteaya> so what shall we talk about today?
15:04:11 <anteaya> anyone have anything on their mind?
15:04:15 <marcusvrn> hi
15:04:57 <anteaya> asselin_: did you want to post a link to your email to the infra list about the virtual sprint?
15:05:09 <asselin_> yeah...looking it up
15:05:10 <anteaya> perhaps we can start there
15:05:13 <anteaya> thanks
15:05:48 <asselin_> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/065876.html
15:05:54 <anteaya> thank you
15:06:09 <asselin_> I'm proposing a virtual sprint for the common ci solution in early July
15:06:16 <asselin_> after the us and canada holidays
15:06:48 <asselin_> goal is, after the virtual sprint, to have 3rd party ci and upstream infra using the same puppet modules to setup a ci system
15:07:01 <krtaylor> ++
15:07:27 <anteaya> the email links to an etherpad
15:07:30 <anteaya> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-ci-sprint
15:07:43 <lennyb> I have a VM or two that can be used for testing
15:08:10 <anteaya> lennyb: wonderful thank you
15:08:19 <asselin_> lennyb, that's be great! yes, right now there's lots of patches that need manual testing and critical reviews
15:08:52 <asselin_> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet+status:open,n,z
15:08:52 <anteaya> asselin_: in addition to folks knowing about it, do you need anything else from them?
15:09:00 <ctlaugh_> I can help test
15:09:26 <anteaya> ctlaugh_: wonderful thank you
15:09:29 <asselin_> there's a lot of patches. I think the ones related to 'jenkins' should be close to merging
15:09:45 <asselin_> so if we can focus on that this week, we can get another one done
15:09:54 <anteaya> asselin_: good plan
15:10:28 <anteaya> asselin_: have you had any feedback on dates at all?
15:10:57 <asselin_> nothing not already publuc
15:11:20 <anteaya> asselin_: are you comfortable making July 8 and 9 the dates for the sprint
15:11:25 <asselin_> seems those dates are good except devvesa
15:11:26 <anteaya> removing the uncertainty there
15:11:40 <asselin_> yes, can confirm those dates.
15:11:43 <anteaya> thank you
15:11:50 <anteaya> we can never get everybody
15:12:13 <anteaya> and hopefully there will be enough access to artifacts that devvesa can follow along
15:12:29 <anteaya> any questions or comments on this topic?
15:12:50 <asselin_> yes, we can also plan to focus on jenkins job builder (his area) e.g. next week after jenkins merges.
15:12:57 <anteaya> awesome
15:13:01 <anteaya> another good plan
15:13:31 <anteaya> are we okay to move on now?
15:13:36 <asselin_> yes, thanks
15:13:43 <anteaya> great, thank you
15:13:52 <anteaya> I really appreciate you setting this up
15:14:04 <anteaya> and all your consistent hard work making this happen
15:14:15 <anteaya> so now let's take a look at this spec
15:14:22 <anteaya> it is a spec for a ci dashboard
15:14:30 <anteaya> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135170/
15:14:48 <anteaya> this spec started last november
15:14:53 <anteaya> and is taking a long time
15:15:16 <anteaya> one possible solution that the spec aims to build already exists
15:15:22 <anteaya> and the code is in stackforge
15:15:45 <anteaya> to my way of thinking we could choose to do the useful thing here and stand it up
15:15:56 <anteaya> I'm interested in hearing other folks thoughts
15:16:07 <anteaya> anybody care to speak up?
15:16:07 <krtaylor> I was going to propose in this weeks working group meeting that we abandon this spec
15:16:31 <krtaylor> everyone is already using patrickeast's
15:16:34 <anteaya> are you able to put a comment to that effect on the spec now?
15:16:42 <krtaylor> sure, np
15:16:45 <anteaya> thank you
15:17:06 <asselin_> yeah, my concern at this point is that there's no one to work on the spec even if it's approved.
15:17:15 <anteaya> yes I share that concern
15:17:15 <asselin_> I can add that too
15:17:19 <krtaylor> it was just too much to drop all at once, and then sweston got busy
15:17:27 <anteaya> I really like steve and think he is a wonderful person
15:17:35 <anteaya> and am grateful for all his hard work
15:17:42 <asselin_> anteaya, +1
15:17:45 <anteaya> however he is busy on other things
15:17:49 <anteaya> which I also respect
15:17:59 <krtaylor> yes, it represents a tremendous amount of work
15:18:34 <asselin_> anteaya, so along the lines of what you were mentioning, perhaps we can get patrick east's solution up in -infra?
15:18:46 <asselin_> on an openstack.org hosted site?
15:18:48 <anteaya> anyone feel like offering a spec that we propose to stand up patrick's dashboard in infra?
15:18:54 <anteaya> asselin_: good idea
15:18:57 <anteaya> :)
15:18:58 <sweston> krtaylor: you rang? :-) may I have a moment to read the scrollback?
15:19:06 <anteaya> sweston: hey there
15:19:16 <krtaylor> patrickeast 's is already in the third-party-tools repo, we should re-spec it to include things it needs to get it to stage 1
15:19:24 <anteaya> sweston: we were admiring how much hard work you do
15:19:28 <sweston> anteaya: hello, anteaya
15:19:37 <krtaylor> sweston, re: monitoring spec
15:19:54 <anteaya> sweston: and acknowledging that your ci dashboard spec is kind of pointless as we already have a dashboard folks us
15:20:06 <anteaya> sweston: so it would be easier all the way around if we just use that
15:20:23 <anteaya> sweston: and we wanted to acknowledge how much we appreicate your hard work on this
15:20:50 <krtaylor> ++
15:21:11 <anteaya> krtaylor: no patrick's doesn't need to include anything else
15:21:14 <anteaya> that is the point
15:21:19 <anteaya> it works now, stand it up
15:21:33 <krtaylor> agreed, and it is
15:21:39 <anteaya> trying to make a dash do everything is what ensured it couldn't get built
15:21:47 <krtaylor> it would be nice to have it in infra though
15:21:49 <asselin_> anteaya, +1...it can be updated as needed just like the rest of infra services
15:21:59 <krtaylor> exactly
15:22:02 <anteaya> yes, it would be nice to have infra stand it up, let's focus on that
15:22:11 <anteaya> asselin_: yes, once it is stood up
15:22:25 <anteaya> sweston: you okay with this?
15:22:43 <anteaya> sweston: noone wants you to feel that we don't appreciate your work because we do
15:22:53 <anteaya> sweston: we are just trying to solve the problem here
15:23:40 <sweston> anteaya, krtaylor thanks for the recognition ... I appreciate it ... need a moment to formulate a thought, am feeling surprised
15:23:42 <anteaya> sweston: I know it is important to you to contribute, and there are still lots of ways for you to do so, if you agree we can abandon this spec
15:23:48 <anteaya> sweston: okay
15:24:07 <anteaya> I think part of the reason you are feeling surprised is you aren't around as much as you used to be
15:24:18 <anteaya> as this is a feeling a lot of folks have had for a while
15:24:25 <anteaya> just haven't articulated it
15:25:01 <sweston> so the current proposal right now is to use a different solution, does someone have a link to patrick's dashboard?
15:25:22 <asselin_> sweston, http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000/?project=openstack%2Fcinder&user=&timeframe=24
15:25:36 <anteaya> it is in his comment of June 4
15:26:25 * anteaya asselin_ is patrickeast pure storage?
15:26:35 <asselin_> yes
15:26:45 <anteaya> could explain why he isn't here today
15:27:34 <sweston> the whole reason for creating the radar project was to create a base of code which folks could pick up and run with themselves
15:28:16 <anteaya> sweston: which is fine
15:28:22 <anteaya> that can still exist
15:28:30 <anteaya> but we don't need an infra spec for it
15:29:36 <sweston> I feel that I got everyone started, but nobody was willing to work with the code .. I went to significant efforts to create a code base which was standardized across openstack projects, and am disappointed that I have received no help with the project at all
15:29:51 <anteaya> understood
15:30:10 <sweston> yes, I understand the current topic, I would just like to make my feelings on the radar project known
15:30:16 <anteaya> it is frustrating to put time and effort into a direction and fail to achieve the support you hoped
15:30:28 <anteaya> thanks for sharing them
15:30:43 <anteaya> I appreciate you trusting us enough to express them
15:31:10 * anteaya waits in case there is more
15:31:17 <sweston> I am ok with abandonment of the spec, but I would like some help to move the radar project forward, perhaps this could be a topic of another meeting
15:31:39 <anteaya> sweston: could you comment on the spec to this effect?
15:32:01 <anteaya> and certainly if you would like to discuss radar at another meeting, I think that would be fine
15:32:08 <anteaya> as far as I am concerned
15:32:09 <krtaylor> sweston, if you can make the Wed working group meeting, you'll have the floor as long as you'd like
15:32:09 <sweston> anteaya: yes, I can do that
15:32:15 <anteaya> sweston: thank you
15:32:25 <krtaylor> or, maybe an infra meeting?
15:32:33 <anteaya> sweston: thanks for sharing your thoughts
15:32:45 <anteaya> krtaylor: I think a third party meeting is the place
15:32:55 <sweston> krtaylor: yes, I can attend either meeting, which ever would be the most effective
15:33:32 <krtaylor> sweston, lets use Wed, and I'll send out a reminder email
15:33:50 <krtaylor> hopefully that will increase attendance
15:33:55 <sweston> anteaya, krtaylor thanks for listening and hearing my concerns
15:34:19 <anteaya> sweston: thanks for sharing them
15:34:25 <anteaya> sweston: I appreciate it
15:34:27 <anteaya> :)
15:34:31 <anteaya> any more on this topic?
15:35:00 <sweston> anteaya: :-) no, I think I've beaten this horse long enough.  I will post my comments to the spec
15:35:20 <anteaya> sweston: thank you
15:35:26 <anteaya> let's move on then
15:35:28 <sweston> anteaya: welcome
15:35:29 <anteaya> and thanks
15:35:32 <anteaya> :)
15:35:44 <anteaya> does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today?
15:36:28 <anteaya> everyone's system is working as expected?
15:36:36 <anteaya> happiness abounds?
15:36:46 <ameade> +1
15:36:48 <krtaylor> hehheh
15:36:55 <akerr> not sure about the happiness statement
15:37:08 <anteaya> akerr: did you want to talk about it?
15:37:18 <asselin_> mine ran out of disk space on the log server...fixing now...
15:37:23 <anteaya> or have you accepted it as working level frustration?
15:37:26 <akerr> nah, I think it'd take a professional to get me out of my rut
15:37:27 <anteaya> asselin_: fun
15:37:40 <anteaya> akerr: enjoy the peace and quiet of your rut
15:38:05 <anteaya> well unless anyone stops me, I'll end the meeting
15:38:16 <anteaya> thanks to all for your attendance and participation
15:38:25 <anteaya> see you all next week
15:38:27 <asselin_> thanks anteaya
15:38:30 <anteaya> #endmeeting