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15:01:15 <krtaylor> who's here for third party CI working group meeting?
15:01:15 <patrickeast> hi
15:01:20 <mmedvede> hello
15:01:22 <wznoinsk> hi o/
15:01:23 <BobBall> o/
15:01:34 <stefano_s> hello
15:02:04 <krtaylor> hi everybody, full agenda today
15:02:11 <asselin> hi
15:02:18 <krtaylor> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#5.2F13.2F15_1500_UTC
15:03:02 <krtaylor> so first off, I want to make sure that everyone knows that next weeks meeting is canceled due to summit
15:03:14 <krtaylor> it is the 0400UTC meeting
15:03:19 <marcusvrn_> Hi
15:03:51 <krtaylor> so we will resume meetings after summit with the 1500UTC
15:04:57 <krtaylor> and, its a topic I'd like to discuss there, whether the continued use of all the meetings continues to be necessary
15:05:29 <krtaylor> or if we could go to every other week, or combine with some of the infra office hours meetings
15:05:44 <krtaylor> might be a good email thread also
15:06:02 <krtaylor> anyway, on to topics
15:06:30 <krtaylor> #topic TPCIWG Session in Vancouver
15:07:18 <krtaylor> our design session was not accepted, but the good news is that we have a infra work session for downstream-puppet and a BoF
15:07:57 <krtaylor> asselin, I believe that the infra times have been set for your meeting, part 1 and 2 correct?
15:08:32 <asselin> krtaylor, yes I think so
15:08:48 <asselin> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-liberty-summit-planning
15:09:05 <asselin> not sure where they get officially scheduled?
15:09:31 <BobBall> Surely on https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/ ?
15:10:26 <asselin> I think those are the general public meetings....
15:10:29 <krtaylor> yes, Thursday 3:10 and 4:10
15:10:40 <krtaylor> http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/2fc3cbea0ca84febf5a334cd5ca4d723
15:10:49 <krtaylor> see the description
15:11:57 <krtaylor> and the Bof is Wed, 1:50 local time
15:12:28 <krtaylor> #link  https://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/3d1a571f8e295eaeedee9af0ac03de57
15:12:43 <krtaylor> I encourage everyone to attend these
15:12:45 * asselin adds to schedule
15:14:14 <krtaylor> BobBall and I have been discussing how we could work some of the working group agenda items into the BoF session
15:14:52 <krtaylor> so there may be time to discuss and brainstorm some of those topics we listed
15:15:28 <krtaylor> any questions on those sessions?
15:15:51 <BobBall> I do hope so; a number of the items in the etherpad are also specific questions that we already wanted to talk about at the BoF
15:16:34 <krtaylor> BobBall, excellent, are you or stefano_s leading that?
15:16:53 <stefano_s> krtaylor: we are going to co-chair the BoF
15:18:15 * krtaylor is looking forward to meeting everyone
15:18:34 <stefano_s> yep, me too
15:18:35 <asselin> when is bof scheduled?
15:18:56 <krtaylor> asselin, see the link, wed 1:50
15:18:56 <BobBall> The BoF was the second link krtaylor postedhttps://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/3d1a571f8e295eaeedee9af0ac03de57
15:19:31 <asselin> thanks
15:20:10 <krtaylor> I'm not sure the format since it is a user session, we may have to make it more fishbowl-ish so that we can promote a discussion
15:20:55 <krtaylor> but, we'll see, the good news is that we have several opportunities to discuss things at summit
15:20:58 <BobBall> We're not sure of the format either - but discussion is certainly what we want to encourage so I'm sure we'll make it work
15:21:24 <krtaylor> and I am always available for lunch/dinner discussions too
15:21:35 <stefano_s> krtaylor: that would be great, actually
15:21:58 <stefano_s> it is my first time at openstack summit, I am looking forward to getting to know the community better
15:21:59 <BobBall> Is the Friday sprint session also relevant with the focus on puppet-openstackci?
15:22:19 <asselin> BobBall, yes
15:22:21 <krtaylor> BobBall, absolutely
15:22:37 <BobBall> Good good - as I assumed
15:22:43 <krtaylor> it is everyone packed into a room all working on related topics
15:22:51 * BobBall will be there for that too.
15:22:55 <krtaylor> so any questions are quickly answered
15:23:05 <krtaylor> = fast progress
15:23:48 <krtaylor> lots of little meetings happen, its one of my favorite times at summit
15:24:15 <krtaylor> ok, anything else on summit meetings?
15:24:53 <krtaylor> #topic Repo for third party tools
15:25:12 <krtaylor> so our repository is waiting for code
15:25:31 <krtaylor> and I know some of you have nice tools that you have written
15:25:43 <krtaylor> so the call is out to start pulling them together
15:25:50 <asselin> +1
15:25:56 <BobBall> What sort of tools are you looking for in this repo?
15:26:19 <krtaylor> sweston has pushed a patchset for radar, the proposed CI monitoring dashboard
15:26:45 <patrickeast> oh so i had a question about that, isn’t radar already in a stackforge repo?
15:26:51 <krtaylor> BobBall, anything that helps you with your environment, that falls outside of infra code
15:27:14 <krtaylor> patrickeast, yes, and after seeing how big the patchset was, maybe it should stay there
15:27:49 <krtaylor> the argument for it in our repo is that we have multiple cores that can take care of it
15:28:07 <patrickeast> ah yea thats true, we would take ownership of it
15:28:30 <asselin> we can add cores to the other project
15:28:49 <krtaylor> I guess if it stayed in radar repo, then we'd need to add more of us to the core roles for it
15:29:20 <krtaylor> either way, I kind of lean toward centralizing everything
15:29:31 <asselin> -1
15:29:36 <patrickeast> iirc at one point we talked about when some project in this repo got big enough it could split into its own repo… radar might already be there
15:29:36 <krtaylor> but the downside is cloning would get everything
15:29:46 <krtaylor> right
15:29:50 <asselin> I think it's better to keep it separate when it makes sence
15:30:03 <asselin> infra started central with all puppet modules and split them out.
15:30:21 <asselin> I think eventually some parts of the thirdparty tools would follow the same fate
15:30:57 <BobBall> BTW - is there an instance of radar running centrally?
15:31:02 <krtaylor> asselin, I think that is a good point, let's start documenting our position in the patchset
15:31:15 <mmedvede> +1 keep separate if makes sense. It is easy to merge, hard to split
15:31:49 <krtaylor> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181562/
15:32:42 <krtaylor> cool, so we all agree to keep it separate?
15:33:03 <krtaylor> BobBall, no, that would hopefully be the eventual outcome
15:33:21 <BobBall> Good good.  I'd like to talk about that too :)
15:33:53 <krtaylor> yes, it is an important tool to help increase the trust in third party CI reporting results
15:34:06 * asselin added a comment
15:34:40 <krtaylor> devs need to be able to quickly see if a system can be trusted, or even compare its result statistics to those of upstream jenkins
15:34:51 <krtaylor> thanks asselin, I will too
15:35:34 <krtaylor> ok, so get those other tool patchsets flowing to the repo
15:36:08 <krtaylor> we have a few also, ping mmedvede :)
15:36:35 <krtaylor> any questions on the repo?
15:36:49 <patrickeast> did we have the directory layout documented somewhere?
15:37:15 <patrickeast> i put some stuff up for review but just kind of threw things in folder willy-nilly
15:37:23 <krtaylor> patrickeast, I realized that I never pushed that
15:37:25 <asselin> yeah...was wondering that when reviewing the fc passthrough patch
15:37:25 <mmedvede> krtaylor: yes, I need to work on adding some
15:38:37 <krtaylor> I like the proposed
15:38:42 <mmedvede> patrickeast: your layout seems sane. I am not sure we can know ahead of time how to best organize it
15:39:10 <krtaylor> I think it can be moved around if need be
15:39:31 <krtaylor> but I like the general functional, then subdir for tool approach, thats what we discussed
15:39:49 <krtaylor> I didn't put that into the readme, will do immediately
15:40:04 <krtaylor> thanks for bringing that up patrickeast
15:40:12 <patrickeast> np
15:40:39 <krtaylor> any other repo questions?
15:41:11 <krtaylor> #topic Monitoring dashboard status
15:41:37 <krtaylor> we have discussed this partially already, but the spec is ready to go
15:41:53 <krtaylor> maybe we can get a +2 during summit
15:42:22 <krtaylor> it has been simplified and all reviews are positive
15:42:35 <krtaylor> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135170/
15:43:13 <krtaylor> but, it will stay in the radar stackforge repo, and we'll need to add others to it for care and feeding
15:44:28 <krtaylor> asselin, would you bring up merge/approval to infra folks in case I forget
15:44:44 <asselin> krtaylor, sure...perhaps a ping later today would be helpful
15:44:59 <krtaylor> asselin, sure
15:45:34 <krtaylor> so any questions on the radar monitoring dashboard?
15:45:49 <BobBall> Well maybe it's easier to talk about it at the summit
15:46:06 <krtaylor> asselin, maybe we can discuss with sweston about adding others to the radar core
15:46:07 <BobBall> but as I said I'm interested in understanding what needs to be done to get an instance running :)
15:46:49 <krtaylor> BobBall, agreed, unfortunately I think sweston isn't going to be able to make it to summit
15:47:48 <BobBall> OK - maybe we can talk in this meeting after the summit
15:48:14 <krtaylor> is everybody coming in to Vancouver Sunday?
15:48:39 <asselin> +1
15:48:41 <BobBall> o/
15:48:45 <krtaylor> maybe we can meetup before?
15:48:55 <patrickeast> yea ill be there sunday
15:49:19 <BobBall> I'd be up for that.
15:49:23 <ja> (wandering in late) I'm not at summit but Emily will rep us if you tell her
15:50:00 <ja> to first order I doubt we'll need anything new/different
15:50:12 <krtaylor> nice, that might be a good beverage session somewhere close tot he convention center
15:51:09 <asselin> +1
15:51:35 <krtaylor> maybe meet at the Sun ubuntu party
15:52:14 <asselin> Yes...I think I registered for that. I need to double-check what time I arrive...might be later than I remember...
15:52:48 <krtaylor> anyway, one last topic
15:53:00 <krtaylor> #topic downstream-puppet
15:53:12 <krtaylor> anything you want to say asselin ?
15:53:33 <asselin> well the log server patches merged and are now in production!
15:53:35 <krtaylor> it was pretty well discussed at the office hours meeting on Monday
15:53:41 <krtaylor> excellent!
15:53:59 <asselin> there's active patches now for jenkins & zuul.
15:54:15 <asselin> still looking for volunteers for a few more parts.
15:54:22 <mmedvede> I am trying the zuul in-progress patch to deploy zuul
15:54:32 <asselin> mmedvede, cool!
15:55:11 <asselin> would be good to get started pre-summit and maybe we can fix up whatever's left during the sprint next friday
15:56:12 <krtaylor> yes, with the working sessions and the sprint, it should make huge progress next week
15:57:17 <krtaylor> alright I'll open the floor for the last few minutes
15:57:22 <krtaylor> #topic Open Discussion
15:57:36 <krtaylor> quick questions? comments?
15:59:39 <krtaylor> remember: next weeks working group meeting will be canceled
15:59:55 <krtaylor> thanks everyone, great meeting, looking forward to seeing everyone at summit that can make it
16:00:08 <asselin> thanks krtaylor
16:00:08 <stefano_s> indeed, see you next week
16:00:12 <BobBall> o/
16:00:28 <krtaylor> #endmeeting