18:01:18 <krtaylor> #startmeeting third-party 18:01:19 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Dec 8 18:01:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:01:22 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' 18:01:31 <mmedvede> o/ 18:01:35 <sweston> o/ 18:01:41 <krtaylor> any third-party CI operators around? 18:02:38 <asselin> o/ 18:03:08 <krtaylor> well, I hope my connection holds out, seems network is more flaky than normal 18:03:38 <sweston> we'll wait for you ;-) 18:03:53 <krtaylor> hehheh, hopefully we have more lurking 18:04:02 <krtaylor> #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission 18:04:10 <krtaylor> #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. 18:04:24 <krtaylor> we have a pretty full agenda today 18:04:42 <krtaylor> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#12.2F8.2F14 18:05:01 <krtaylor> #topic Review of previous week's open action items 18:05:16 <krtaylor> so we had 2 from last week, both mine 18:05:40 <krtaylor> I completed the wiki and kickoff email for the 3rd party doc refresh 18:05:48 <krtaylor> hope all saw that email 18:05:58 <krtaylor> we'll get to that in a bit 18:06:29 <krtaylor> second was to ping PTLs for deadlines, and I have some updates there as well 18:06:53 <krtaylor> #topic Announcements 18:07:00 <krtaylor> any announcements? 18:07:37 <krtaylor> I'll take silence as no 18:07:39 <krtaylor> #topic OpenStack Program items 18:08:27 <krtaylor> so, the third-party CI documentation is underway 18:08:32 <krtaylor> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-ci-documentation 18:09:03 <krtaylor> if you want to help, comment on the email thread, read the current docs, think through changes 18:09:10 <krtaylor> and sign up on the etherpad 18:09:49 <krtaylor> we'll see the response, if we get several people wanting to help, we may try the virtual sprint that infra manual did 18:10:31 <krtaylor> that was to use the sprint irc channel for 2-3 days of working as a team to bang out all the updates 18:11:03 <krtaylor> but if not, we'll just use the etherpad to coordinate the patches and figure out what is being worked on 18:11:27 <krtaylor> any questions on that? 18:12:01 <krtaylor> else, onward, to third-party CI monitoring and the associated spec 18:12:05 <krtaylor> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135170 18:12:39 <krtaylor> I see some comments, sweston were you going to rev that spec? 18:12:46 <krtaylor> or did you need more input? 18:12:57 <sweston> I am still responding to the latest comments, but there is only one noteworthy comment so far. I need more input. 18:13:28 <krtaylor> ok, I was thinking of proposing a command line tool, that could be a subset of the vision to get started 18:13:37 <sweston> jhasketh would like some functionality included for the rest api, and that is fine. 18:14:18 <sweston> krtaylor: yes, that would be helpful. the command line tool would be used to access the rest api 18:14:23 <krtaylor> did anyone else have any questions or comments on the spec for sweston ? 18:15:34 <krtaylor> sweston, the process used to test a system in question could use more detail, as well as how the data will be represented, early feedback from other projects was for a radar-like ui 18:15:54 <sweston> krtaylor: ok, noted 18:16:33 <sweston> krtaylor: thank you 18:16:51 <krtaylor> so, if nobody has any questions or comments, please review the spec 18:17:56 <krtaylor> and finally for this section, I hope everyone has heard about the third-party self serve system accounts 18:18:13 <krtaylor> go read all about it at: 18:18:18 <krtaylor> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137240 18:18:30 <sweston> woot!! 18:18:41 <asselin> yes, very nice 18:18:43 <krtaylor> yes, fantastic work by infra team 18:18:50 <krtaylor> +1000 18:19:05 <krtaylor> I have not heard of anyone using it yet, any feedback? 18:19:54 <krtaylor> ok, onward then 18:19:59 <krtaylor> #topic Deadlines & Deprecations 18:20:29 <krtaylor> neutron mid-cycle is underway, we may get feedback for this topic following that 18:20:58 <krtaylor> cinder said "Current plan is that we are warning people with existing drivers that they need CI working K-2. New drivers need it by the end of Kilo." 18:21:11 <krtaylor> as per jungleboyj 18:21:58 <krtaylor> I have not head of any changes or new deadlines coming for nova driver testing 18:22:35 <krtaylor> except that they are looking for better reporting on the health of CI systems (what our monitoring dashboard addresses) 18:22:43 <asselin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers 18:22:50 <asselin> ^^ cinder 3rd party ref 18:23:03 <krtaylor> asselin, thanks! 18:23:43 <krtaylor> asselin, are you the cinder liaison? 18:24:03 <asselin> krtaylor, not officially, but I work on cinder-ci 18:24:19 <krtaylor> asselin, I would be it will be official soon :) 18:24:26 <asselin> lol 18:24:26 <krtaylor> s/be/bet 18:24:51 <krtaylor> any questions or comments on deadlines? 18:25:15 <krtaylor> #topic Highlighting a Program or Third-Party CI Service 18:25:47 <krtaylor> just another quick mention on the split out of the puppet modules, see links in agenda 18:26:04 <krtaylor> that will be ongoing for a while I imagine 18:26:29 <sweston> the split script has been running successfully for a week now, so yay for that 18:26:30 <asselin> sweston, how's your script doing with that? 18:26:46 <asselin> ok, great. I was going to start another one and ref your repo 18:27:03 <sweston> it has also been proposed to the repository, one sec, i'll have the link 18:27:30 <sweston> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137991/ 18:27:52 <sweston> asselin: waiting for your respected review ;-) 18:28:10 <sweston> (and anybody else who would like to test it) 18:28:24 <asselin> sweston, can you change the topic to module-split 18:28:31 <asselin> sweston, will be easier to find :) 18:29:01 <sweston> asselin: yeah, I must have reset it to master when doing the check-in 18:29:10 <sweston> will do 18:29:13 <asselin> thanks 18:29:41 <krtaylor> excellent, so that brings us to your items asselin 18:29:43 <krtaylor> In-tree Third Party CI Solution 18:29:55 <asselin> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:thirdpartyci,n,z 18:30:29 <asselin> I wrote a spec to get an in-tree ci solution based on what infra is using (jenkins/zuul/nodepool) 18:30:57 <asselin> I also took a baby-step to get the log server directly reusable by 3rd party ci operators 18:31:04 <krtaylor> looks good 18:31:12 <krtaylor> yes, lots of comments there :) 18:31:12 <asselin> Lots of good comments, and I'd like to get some more 18:31:21 <sweston> asselin: this is interesting, thanks, will definitely review 18:31:28 <asselin> and see if anyone has ideas/solutions to address the comments 18:31:39 <sweston> we've needed this for a long time :-) 18:31:49 <krtaylor> agreed 18:32:08 <sweston> asselin: +1000 18:32:47 <asselin> my 'internal' stretch goal is to get something working/proposed by K1. 18:33:00 <asselin> (before k2 starts) 18:33:06 <sweston> asselin: i'll work with you on this, would you add me as a primary assignee? 18:33:12 <asselin> or before christmas :) 18:33:19 <asselin> sure can, thanks! 18:33:39 <sweston> awesome, and thanks for the spec! 18:33:52 <krtaylor> great work 18:34:09 <asselin> if anyone else is interested, just ping me, or add a comment to the spec asking to be added :) 18:34:35 * krtaylor wishes he had more time to work on this 18:35:03 <asselin> krtaylor, reviews/ideas would be great 18:35:15 <krtaylor> asselin, will do 18:35:24 <asselin> thanks 18:35:38 <krtaylor> and I'll see if I can encourage others to review as well 18:36:05 <krtaylor> any other questions or comments from anyone for this topic? 18:36:50 <krtaylor> onward then 18:37:01 <krtaylor> #topic CI System issues 18:37:09 <krtaylor> anyone have anything here? 18:37:40 <krtaylor> I did see some great comments left for other systems that were wishing to have their account re-enabled 18:38:23 <krtaylor> exactly the value that this team can bring to the community, reviewing other systems and recommending their enabling or voting, ect 18:38:42 <krtaylor> any systems needing review? 18:39:16 <krtaylor> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems 18:39:33 <krtaylor> the systems page shows several that are still down 18:39:50 <krtaylor> 4 I believe 18:40:44 <krtaylor> I don't know how current this page is, it may need refreshing, I'll email those systems 18:41:30 <krtaylor> next then 18:41:45 <krtaylor> #topic Open Discussion 18:41:58 <krtaylor> I had one item, meeting time/date 18:42:15 <krtaylor> there is an email thread, currently with 2 proposals 18:42:34 <krtaylor> 1) for 2 meetings a week 2) for one meeting a week at alternating times 18:42:45 <krtaylor> please read that thread and comment 18:42:57 <krtaylor> I'd like to get that wrapped up this week 18:43:36 <krtaylor> so far, the alternating meeting proposal has the most votes, if that continues, I'll propose times to vote on shortly 18:43:48 <krtaylor> any comments? 18:44:07 <asselin> +1 for alternate meeting times 18:44:24 <sweston> ditto 18:44:28 <mmedvede> same 18:44:39 <krtaylor> thanks asselin, sweston, mmedvede 18:44:58 <krtaylor> ok, then I'll open the floor 18:45:13 <krtaylor> any topics to discuss, questions to answer? 18:48:31 <krtaylor> ok, well since the discussion has wound down quickly, I'll close it out 18:48:39 <krtaylor> thanks everyone, great meeting! 18:48:49 <asselin> thanks krtaylor 18:49:03 <sweston> thanks everyone! 18:49:07 <krtaylor> #endmeeting