18:00:39 <krtaylor> #startmeeting third-party
18:00:41 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Oct 13 18:00:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:44 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'third_party'
18:00:56 <dbite> bye
18:01:02 <krtaylor> anyone here for the third party meeting?
18:01:13 * jesusaurus is lurking
18:01:16 <sweston> Good morning!
18:01:17 * ctlaugh is here
18:01:28 * ociuhandu is around
18:01:50 <krtaylor> welcome everyone!
18:01:51 <asselin> hi
18:02:02 <ociuhandu> hello all
18:02:05 <ctlaugh> hello
18:02:18 <dougwig> o/
18:02:24 <ignacio-scopett1> o/
18:02:31 <krtaylor> #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission
18:02:41 <krtaylor> #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable.
18:03:09 <krtaylor> we have a light agenda today, but I'm sure we'll have a lively open discussion later
18:03:12 <krtaylor> here is the agenda
18:03:29 <krtaylor> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#10.2F13.2F14
18:03:44 <krtaylor> #topic Review of previous week's open action items
18:04:49 <krtaylor> I didn't record any actions from last meeting
18:04:57 <krtaylor> did I miss anything?
18:05:19 <krtaylor> next
18:05:21 <krtaylor> #topic Announcements
18:05:34 <krtaylor> again nothing on the agenda
18:05:41 <krtaylor> anyone have an announcement?
18:06:01 <krtaylor> onward then
18:06:10 <krtaylor> #topic OpenStack Program items
18:06:18 <krtaylor> I'm the only item here
18:06:44 <krtaylor> and that is for all to review the kilo summit session priorities
18:07:06 <krtaylor> I'd like to fill that out into an etherpad for the summit session
18:07:15 <krtaylor> that session has been scheduled
18:07:28 <krtaylor> #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/9902dac01525691e60ac94bf236569c6#
18:07:38 <krtaylor> I hope to see you all there
18:08:28 <krtaylor> next
18:08:30 <krtaylor> #topic Deadlines & Deprecations
18:08:37 <krtaylor> nothing here, anyone?
18:09:12 * krtaylor is thinking we may have the shortest meeting ever
18:09:23 <krtaylor> #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account
18:09:43 <krtaylor> no one volunteered to speak about their system here, maybe next week
18:09:46 * ctlaugh is new here -- starting to get involved, but nothing to contribute yet
18:10:11 <krtaylor> I'll see if I can drum up a third-party service to give us a overview next week
18:10:21 <krtaylor> welcome ctlaugh
18:10:46 <ctlaugh> I would love to hear about an example of a working one -- I am with Linaro and we are highly interested in setting up third-party testing for ARM
18:11:22 <krtaylor> ctlaugh, I can prob help there, I was in Linaro too, I'll ping you later
18:11:33 <ctlaugh> krtaylor: excellent
18:11:47 <krtaylor> ctlaugh, say hi to ibiris for me  :)
18:11:55 <ctlaugh> krtaylor: I will
18:12:19 <krtaylor> ok, so this is the fastest we have ever gotten to the Open Discussion
18:12:29 <krtaylor> #topic Open Discussion
18:12:37 <krtaylor> the floor is open
18:13:22 <ociuhandu> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118623/
18:13:39 * krtaylor looks
18:13:57 <ociuhandu> We had quite a few talks around it
18:14:04 <krtaylor> ah yes
18:14:12 <krtaylor> I was looking at that this morning
18:14:31 <krtaylor> I am thinking I will abandon that one, and revive the effort after discussions at summit
18:14:39 <ociuhandu> and I had the feeling that we will move towards a format to trigger only third-party CIs on our last talk
18:15:00 <ociuhandu> had this feeling, just wanted to confirm it :)
18:15:09 <krtaylor> yes, although I'd like to see it addressed again across the board
18:16:05 <ociuhandu> maybe some of the other third-party folks can also take a look and express their views on it
18:16:19 <krtaylor> if infra is still strong feeling that recheck fires everything, then we'll need a ci specific recommendation, which is basically for the CI systems to document it on their wiki page
18:16:38 <asselin> I agree wth ociuhandu's comments
18:16:45 <krtaylor> ociuhandu, yes, that would be helpful for when it is revived
18:17:58 * krtaylor is trying to locate another link he'd like to get feedback on...
18:18:16 <sweston> how about this one? :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/zuul/+bug/1370105
18:18:17 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1370105 in zuul "feature request: gerrit files option for pipeline triggers" [Wishlist,Triaged]
18:18:29 <sweston> aw, beat me to it
18:18:42 <sweston> so I was looking at this last week
18:19:25 <asselin> this one too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123578/
18:20:17 <krtaylor> sweston, are you working that one?
18:20:31 <sweston> I will take it
18:20:56 <krtaylor> asselin, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122896/
18:21:07 <krtaylor> sweston, excellent
18:21:24 <krtaylor> sweston, I was hoping I could, not enough hours in the day
18:21:55 <mmedvede> the asselin 's patch adds additional gate hooks. It is good to have for third-party.
18:21:59 <krtaylor> so I will beg reviews for the 2 links for asselin 's patches
18:22:02 <sweston> I have a few hours at the end of the week, I'll take it off your hands
18:22:04 <krtaylor> mmedvede, ++
18:22:11 <asselin> thanks
18:22:24 <krtaylor> sweston, thats perfect
18:22:35 <sweston> krtaylor: ok
18:22:39 <asselin> should I rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122896/ now, or after it's dependency merges?
18:22:55 <krtaylor> asselin, those are close, they just need another +2 right?
18:23:19 <asselin> they both have 1 +2
18:23:24 <asselin> so yes
18:23:57 <krtaylor> let's bring those up at the infra meeting tomorrow, if they are still needy
18:24:20 <asselin> ok...infra or qa?
18:24:39 <krtaylor> infra was what I was thinking
18:24:56 <asselin> ok I see..it's in openstack-infra.
18:25:07 <krtaylor> asselin, they are infra patches
18:25:15 <clarkb> asselin: why not just run cleanup after d-g runs?
18:25:16 <krtaylor> right, its tomorrow
18:25:23 <krtaylor> +1
18:25:23 <clarkb> or before it runs?
18:25:38 <clarkb> I don't think we need this functionality in d-g. it exists to run devstack then tests. Not cleanup after them
18:26:08 <asselin> clarkb, b/c the log file upload is there.
18:26:29 <clarkb> asselin: we can chat outside the meeting but I don't understand how that comes into play
18:26:39 <asselin> ok
18:27:01 <krtaylor> clarkb, we have also found this idea to be very useful
18:27:26 <clarkb> right I get that the functionality is useful, but if you run it after d-g returns don't ou get the same functionality?
18:27:42 <clarkb> (or before d-g runs depending on the context of pre vs post)
18:27:47 <asselin> no, if it's a failure, then no other tasks run
18:27:58 <clarkb> asselin: thats an artifact of your job setup
18:28:01 <clarkb> asselin: you can change that
18:28:17 * asselin looking
18:28:17 <krtaylor> mmedvede, rfolco ^^^
18:28:48 <asselin> and also, we sanitize some log files before they're uploaded
18:29:06 <mmedvede> clarkb, the issue is that if we want to, for example, pull custom logs, we can not use post test hook, because it is not run if tests fail
18:29:14 <clarkb> mmedvede: but that can be changed
18:29:30 <clarkb> remove set -e, run d-g, record $?, run post options, exit recorded $?
18:31:41 <asselin> clarkb, I can try that and see if that's sufficient for what we need to do
18:31:42 <krtaylor> ok, that looks like it might require more discussion in -infra
18:31:44 <mmedvede> clarkb, yes, we can do this. But would it not be more invasive and have a potential to break things? Also, as rfolco said, we might want to do additional work after cleanup
18:32:03 <clarkb> no I think adding more features to d-g is invasive
18:32:15 <clarkb> and likely to break things particularly since it will not be used upstream where we test d-g
18:32:50 <asselin> I think the refactoring is good idea regardless
18:32:51 <mmedvede> clarkb, the patch should not add anything unless there are post/pre hooks are defined
18:33:12 <asselin> it also includes unit tests which were not there before
18:35:39 <krtaylor> ok, it looks like this discussion is dying down
18:35:54 <krtaylor> we can continue in -infra
18:36:01 <asselin> ok
18:36:05 <ctlaugh> Are there any other recommended links to start with other than http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#the-jenkins-gerrit-trigger-plugin-way?
18:36:12 <ctlaugh> oops, sorry, wrong link
18:36:41 <ctlaugh> http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html (without the anchor)
18:36:46 <krtaylor> ctlaugh, there are several good ones
18:36:57 <krtaylor> jaypipes has a couple
18:37:06 <krtaylor> I have a list I'll forward
18:37:15 <ctlaugh> krtaylor: thank you
18:37:38 <krtaylor> anyone else?
18:38:03 <krtaylor> thats a new record for the fastest meeting
18:38:13 <krtaylor> thanks everyone!
18:38:27 <sweston> thanks!
18:38:38 <krtaylor> #endmeeting