18:00:49 #startmeeting third-party 18:00:50 Meeting started Mon Sep 1 18:00:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:51 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:53 The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' 18:01:44 who is here? 18:01:49 hi 18:01:50 hi 18:01:53 Hi 18:02:09 here is our agenda for today 18:02:12 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042917.html 18:02:40 #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission 18:02:59 let's remember why we are here 18:03:03 #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. 18:03:24 #topic Review of previous week's open action items 18:03:40 #info third party team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ 18:03:41 anteaya: is the link for agenda correct? 18:04:03 no 18:04:04 also here (sorry late) 18:04:13 here is the agenda 18:04:17 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Agenda_for_next_meeting 18:04:28 I had something else in my clipboard 18:04:39 np, thanks for being here kevinbenton 18:05:11 so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ has some reviews but none from third party operators that I can see 18:05:27 it would be supportive to see some reviews from folks who attend this meeting 18:05:42 so let's have that for an action item for this week as well 18:05:55 #action third party team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ 18:06:12 other action item 18:06:13 anteaya : i cannot see the benefit of this exercise, since i am more of a newcomer to the process itself. one thing i had suggested to fungi on irc was if the community could host some pre-built vm templates, it would give everyone a good headstart 18:06:16 #info anteaya to offer joa's work as config patches with joa as co-author by next meeting 18:06:26 I haven't done that 18:06:30 thats why i didnt review it either way. 18:06:38 daya_k: would you like to know the benefit of the exercise? 18:06:49 or would you like to talk about your suggestion to fungi? 18:06:52 yes, please. 18:07:05 the benefit is that this is the direction infra is going 18:07:11 he had liked the idea i think, but its not part of any specific agenda 18:07:33 ok, but how will it help ramp up new 3rd party systems 18:07:47 and since the mission of this group, see our goals, is to work with infra, this is inline with our reason for being here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Goals_for_Third_Party_meetings 18:08:24 how will this work ramp up new 3rd party systems? 18:08:28 is that the question? 18:09:02 daya_k: is that your question? 18:09:12 yes, i am not in a position to comment how it will help streamline the infra team's work itself, but i dont see how it will help someone like me who is setting up a new system 18:09:27 anyone able to answer daya_k's question? 18:09:30 besides me? 18:10:01 because this direction doesn't actually help infra 18:10:13 it actually takes time away from infra to do this work 18:10:24 noone is able to answer this question besides me 18:10:29 okay 18:10:52 since noone sees the point of reviewing this spec I can see why noone is reviewing this spce 18:11:28 anteaya: i thought the exercise was meant to streamline infra effort by modularizing the work, but if you say it wont help infra itself, then i am flummoxed 18:12:06 this is for consumers of third party modules 18:12:12 particulary third party ci 18:12:16 anteaya: if i got it right, this work should ease the maintenance of any third-party CI, that could use only the required modules 18:12:33 now the phrase "third party" doesn' appear in the spec itself, but that is who the work is for 18:12:41 ociuhandu: yay 18:12:49 * anteaya hands ociuhandu a gold star 18:12:56 ociuhandu: thank you for paying attention 18:12:58 anteaya: I am just looking at the document now, have to admit, missed that before 18:13:05 ociuhandu: do expand for the benfit of others 18:13:33 anteaya: so, today am i not able to pick up individual modules if an update is announced on the mailing lists? sorry, i havent done this exercise yet, so dont know 18:13:43 i think it’s excellent, so any third-party ci can take the the modules it needs 18:14:22 not having to deal with a monolithical block that might not suit their particular requirements and from that block figuring out how to “remove” pieces they do not use / can not use 18:14:22 ociuhandu: yay 18:14:30 ociuhandu: keep going 18:14:35 ociuhandu: you are exactly correct 18:15:26 ociuhandu: ok, if it helps achieve this, then yes, definitely thats a +1. so, does this mean, even the modules we have today will be broken into sub-components? 18:15:29 well, is it detalied enough now? :) 18:15:42 yes, thanks. 18:16:16 anyone else with any other questions about the benefit of the infra-spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ to third party? 18:16:25 thank you, ociuhandu 18:16:49 okay I'll move on 18:16:52 daya_k: yes, if I got it right, it’s exactly about splitting those 18:17:12 #topic Announcements 18:17:33 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042917.html 18:17:39 okay so looking at this email 18:18:12 all third party ci systems should have an entry on the wikipage for third party systems 18:18:29 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems 18:18:45 anyone without an entry on the wikipage with have their system disabled 18:18:48 questions? 18:19:12 moving on 18:19:16 #topic OpenStack Program items 18:19:23 I have nothing here 18:19:28 does anyone have anything? 18:19:53 moving right along 18:20:00 #topic Deadlines & Deprecations 18:20:17 I have nothing here either 18:20:27 and I don't see any of the program reps here 18:20:33 anyone have anything to say? 18:20:43 anteaya: I have one question: How are selected the CI’s whose results appear on the right side of the patch page? 18:20:59 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116268/ 18:21:15 i see there Cisco CI, Huawey CI and Jenkins 18:21:18 ociuhandu: lets deal with that in open discussion? 18:21:24 which is coming up 18:21:32 sure, sorry 18:21:34 thanks 18:21:38 next topic then 18:21:45 #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account 18:21:51 or we could address it here 18:22:01 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116268/ 18:22:30 so ociuhandu if you click the button marked "Toggle CI" 18:22:41 yes, i know that part :) 18:22:47 you can see the comments of all the systems 18:22:51 was referring to the CI’s featured on top 18:23:13 the table on the right of the reviewers list 18:23:13 you can see that the two systems that are up on the top have comments in the same format as jenkins 18:23:19 so the parser picks them up 18:23:34 the systems that are not picked up have a different comment format than jenkins 18:23:36 ok, so the format has to be exactly the same 18:23:40 so the parser does not pick them up 18:23:43 ociuhandu: yes 18:23:47 thanks for the clarification 18:23:51 the parser has to be able to pick them up 18:23:59 and the parser is based on jenkins format 18:24:11 ociuhandu: welcome, thanks for the question 18:24:19 anyone else with questions on this item? 18:24:53 anyone else with questions or points about a specific gerrit account? 18:25:26 which brings us to the last topic of the day 18:25:32 #topic Open Discussion 18:25:43 anyone with anything they want to discuss? 18:26:48 motion to adjurn? 18:27:29 yes, should be ok. i'll review the puppet module proposal with a +1, thanks for clarifying 18:27:30 s/adjurn/adjourn 18:27:47 daya_k: thanks for asking, I didn't know this direction wasn't clear 18:27:59 I have no other questions for the moment, thanks 18:28:03 well if noone has anything else, I'll adjourn 18:28:09 ociuhandu: thanks 18:28:13 anteaya : i might have missed a meeting when this was discussed, but it helps 18:28:19 thanks 18:28:22 thanks for showing up everybody 18:28:28 have a good week 18:28:33 #endmeeting