15:00:32 #startmeeting telemetry 15:00:33 Meeting started Thu Mar 10 15:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. 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15:05:45 o/ 15:06:12 #topic mitaka blockers 15:06:27 any blockers we should be aware of based on testing so far? 15:06:38 qq, should we remove deprecated codes and options? 15:06:48 (also if you do find high/critical issues, feel free to raise to list as well) 15:07:02 r-mibu: it depends 15:07:25 r-mibu: deprecation policy means we need to keep it for at least one fully cycle 15:07:40 ok, i have conern about alarming function 15:07:52 r-mibu: what do you want to remove? 15:07:53 not all major installers are ready to aodh 15:08:01 ceilometer-alarm ? 15:08:06 yep 15:08:12 that is already gone... 15:08:19 lol 15:08:25 :D 15:08:27 ok, never mind 15:09:05 r-mibu: i believe rdo is still using ceilometer-alarms? pradk_ ? 15:09:27 gordc, yes I think 15:09:43 gordc, well packstack now supports aodh 15:09:51 gordc, tripleo support in progress 15:10:14 r-mibu: in this case, i feel like it's above and beyond support. if you don't want to move to Aodh, you probably need to get support elsewhere. 15:10:39 it's ok, i want to move to aodh 15:10:48 event-alarm :) 15:11:04 tbh, i don't want slow down upstream dev to support downstream requirements. 15:11:18 r-mibu: sounds good 15:11:39 i just want to drop ceilo-alarm without fights ;-p 15:11:53 :) 15:12:33 cdent has a speech about upstream supporting downstream 15:12:40 no fights needed. 15:12:46 it's not a speech 15:12:53 it's a screed 15:13:07 it was deprected for Liberty already IIRC 15:13:13 should we still recommend ceilometerclient as alarming client this release ? 15:13:16 we can always use this as an excuse 15:13:30 ildikov: yep 15:14:20 liusheng: err... possibly? i haven't tested aodhclient much yet. 15:14:23 liusheng: what are you thoughts? 15:14:55 do you think aodhclient is ready or do you think big changes will still happen? 15:15:11 gordc: what about Heat? 15:15:45 ildikov: it's still on ceilometerclient. the switch was way too big when i tried to apply aodhclient 15:15:52 gordc: I agree, I am worry the upstream applications don't adapt the aodhclient now :( 15:15:54 heat still use ceilometerclient, so we need to deprecated quickly to inform haet to move the aodhclient 15:16:00 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284985/ 15:16:13 gordc, woot ! 15:16:27 sileht: i gave up on it. just fyi.lol 15:16:33 it seems we need to stick with ceilometerclient for now 15:16:34 _nadya__: do you still plan on taking it over? 15:16:40 <_nadya__> gordc: yep, I plan 15:16:43 ildikov: yeah :( 15:16:55 gordc: agreed on :( 15:17:07 since there are different usages between ceilometerclient and aodhclient 15:18:03 sileht: you can have a look at the patch (i was kind of guessing and replacing s/ceilometer/aodh/) 15:18:24 gordc, the patch looks hudge 15:18:30 liusheng: yeah, so i guess we need to keep ceilometerclient around for now. 15:18:46 sileht: it is. that's why i gave up on trying for Mitaka. 15:19:00 sileht: also, i wasn't exactly sure what i was doing.lol 15:19:22 gordc, I known, we are all developers 15:19:28 I also mean not only heat as the alarm users :) 15:20:05 sileht: lol 15:20:38 liusheng: right. so yeah, i guess officially keep using ceilometerclient but you can start trying aodhclient. 15:21:07 liusheng: we will need to tag aodhclient as well. is the latest release ok for mitaka or do you want to wait for something? 15:22:32 gordc: nothing, I just concern 15:23:02 liusheng: kk. not a big deal since nothing is dependent on it right now 15:23:24 any other dicussion items for Mitaka? 15:23:29 I will check the install guide as well 15:24:07 just an fyi, i'm taking the latest releases of ceilometermiddleware and ceiloemterclient as stable/mitaka 15:24:10 I saw aodhclient package for SUSE for instance, but I will add a note that it is not fully functional yet 15:24:35 ildikov: cool cool. i wonder what release they built from 15:24:54 0.1.0 and 0.2.0 i believe are missing a good chunk of functionality 15:25:18 gordc: that's a good question, I will try to check that as well 15:25:34 kk. 15:26:37 #topic open discussion 15:27:29 just an fyi, openstack math says we're diverse (for now): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289283/ 15:28:10 that's all i have. will close this in a few if we're all happy 15:29:05 thanks folks. 15:29:06 good to know we're diverse :) 15:29:11 <_nadya__> what? 15:29:12 thanks 15:29:19 <_nadya__> what doest it mean for us? 15:30:42 _nadya__: it just means we have more than 2 companies contributing? it's just numbers for managers to do very very high-level review of projects 15:30:54 _nadya__: I doubt it would mean too much in practice 15:31:15 <_nadya__> ook :) 15:31:30 cool cool. keep on testing folks. 15:31:32 #endmeeting