14:02:01 #startmeeting telcowg 14:02:01 Meeting started Wed Dec 16 14:02:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:02:04 The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' 14:02:09 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda 14:02:13 #topic roll call 14:02:14 o/ 14:02:16 heh 14:02:17 hi 14:02:57 howdy folks 14:03:11 #topic complex instance placement updates 14:03:19 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251442/ 14:03:33 so this merged, arguably somewhat faster than i thought it would 14:03:44 wondering if you think it still needs further tweaks cloudon ? 14:04:07 I think after our discussion last week I was happy I understood it 14:04:39 ok 14:04:43 wfm :) 14:05:05 so i havent gotten any further on drafting up the other two 14:05:19 other than that i have a tab open with the sec segregation one ready to start, lol 14:05:44 i had a question about meeting scheduling though 14:05:46 every journey starts with a single tab... 14:05:57 #topic meeting schedule 14:06:09 #info availability for 23rd Dec, 30th Dec, 6th Jan ? 14:06:23 the other working groups i am on are pretty much in hiatus until january after this week 14:06:33 for me - poor to non-existent for Dec, Jan 6 OK 14:06:44 oddly i am still around/available for the 23rd and 30th if needed but will be MIA 6th Jan 14:07:21 ok 14:07:43 my proposal would be we push out to jan 13th and have a checkpoint then 14:07:55 in the hope that i have used the extra hour in the intervening weeks to draft these submissions 14:07:56 ;) 14:08:03 +1 14:08:32 qn on content placement - where does 'merged' take us to in the workflow at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories? The "user story ready for voting" box in bottom left? 14:08:39 #info Next meeting January 13th 14:09:01 #action sgordon to update wiki and send email highlighting cancellation of intervening meetings 14:09:15 yeah, great question 14:09:25 in theory i am the owner 14:09:33 so it's in drafts and ready for voting! 14:09:42 i think i now need to resubmit against the proposed folder 14:09:59 (as in submit a patch that is a simple move of the RST to the other folder) 14:11:24 ok, cool - wasn't sure what the "voting" referred to other than normal gerrit reviews 14:12:18 i believe there is a concept of prioritization within the product wg which is what it refers to 14:12:35 and/or the community input phase in the next box 14:14:48 cloudon, make sense? 14:14:57 i suspect i will learn some new things when i submit it 14:15:00 :) 14:15:21 there is also an element of testing the process here as i am not sure anything has made it through proposed yet 14:15:22 yup, makes perfect sense 14:15:45 yes, was just looking at the links on that workflow page and they seem to be placeholders 14:16:32 the sub pages ones? 14:16:40 yeah 14:17:02 i know for cap management we had an initial meeting but it was very hard to align our schedules so we have mostly been working via email 14:17:34 yup, links like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories/Lifecycle_Management 14:17:35 i wonder if that info about the SMEs involved etc doesnt belong in the submission itself 14:18:52 Isn't the team stuff on the sub-page about who has picked up the user story for implementation rather than the story itself? 14:19:45 no 14:19:55 all of those are still in definition stages afaik 14:20:43 ah, ok - in which case having them in the story would make sense 14:21:18 yeah 14:21:58 mmm just looking at it there really isnt a spot in the template 14:22:02 i'll ask on their m/l 14:22:17 i think it would make sense to have you and i listed in the complex instance placement one in case anyone has questions 14:22:34 * sgordon sgordon to ask on product-wg mailing list about listing SMEs in user story 14:23:05 makes sense 14:23:52 #action sgordon to ask on product-wg mailing list about listing SMEs in user story 14:24:01 ^ that works better :) 14:25:09 alright 14:25:20 so my plan is to use the next 30 mins to follow up on my AIs ;) 14:25:26 anything else you would like to raise? 14:25:51 nope - that's all from me other than to wish you a happy Christmas & New Year 14:26:53 yes, you too! 14:26:54 enjoy 14:26:56 #endmeeting