14:02:04 <sgordon> #startmeeting telcowg
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14:02:09 <sgordon> >.<
14:02:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg'
14:02:20 <sgordon> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda
14:02:27 <sgordon> #topic roll call
14:02:43 <cloudon> hi
14:02:48 <sgordon> hiya
14:02:52 <sgordon> anyone else about?
14:03:02 * sgordon gives it 30 secs to a minute
14:04:06 <sgordon> ok
14:04:19 <cloudon> tumbleweed...
14:04:28 <sgordon> #topic Product WG integration
14:04:41 <sgordon> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/user-stories/draft/complex_instance_placement.rst
14:05:01 <sgordon> #info merged vIMS user story as "complex instance placement" in product working group drafts folder
14:05:14 <sgordon> #info next step is to propose moving it to "proposed" folder
14:05:34 <sgordon> #info some discussion in product wg meeting about whether it can be merged under one of the other broader user stories proposed
14:05:49 <sgordon> #action sgordon to look at alignment and determine how to get to "proposed"
14:06:02 <sgordon> so over all that was relatively painless to do
14:06:23 <sgordon> i think the fact that our user stories already have been reviewed by a number of people and align to the same template pretty much helped a lot
14:06:25 <cloudon> I just suggested some text for the opportunities/justification bit - let me know if that's the sort of thing needed
14:06:34 <sgordon> thanks that's very helpful
14:07:09 <sgordon> cloudon, was that in an email or via gerrit?
14:07:31 <cloudon> Via gerrit.  Hopefully...
14:07:35 <sgordon> :D
14:07:40 <cloudon> ...may have cocked up the editing thing.
14:07:56 <sgordon> nm i can see it
14:07:58 <cloudon> I can just make comments, not chnage the text yes>
14:08:00 <sgordon> :)
14:08:15 <sgordon> #action sgordon to propose update based on feedback in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247224/2/user-stories/draft/complex_instance_placement.rst
14:08:45 <sgordon> so the next steps...
14:08:51 <cloudon> Meant to ask last week - is the PWG meeting the one at 2100 UTC on Mondays?
14:09:04 <sgordon> #info next steps, need to repeat for security segregation and session border control
14:09:08 <sgordon> ummm that sounds right
14:09:10 <sgordon> let me get the link
14:09:32 <sgordon> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Product_WG
14:09:42 <sgordon> #info Weekly on Monday at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (IRC webclient)
14:09:47 <sgordon> there is currently also a voice line...
14:10:00 <sgordon> there is some active discussion as to whether to switch to irc only meetings or not
14:10:10 <sgordon> (big topic in the last meeting)
14:10:24 <sgordon> but the timing for now will be 2100 UTC either way
14:10:41 <cloudon> ok, will try to make next week's
14:10:42 <sgordon> #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/product-wg
14:10:46 <sgordon> is the m/l
14:10:49 <sgordon> relatively low traffic
14:11:41 <sgordon> #info Merged openstack/telcowg-usecases: Session Border Controller  https://review.openstack.org/176301
14:12:08 <sgordon> i gave that +A given we had two +2s and part of the product wg workflow will be to seek external reviewers
14:12:58 <cloudon> just checking - merged in TelcoWG not PWG, yes?
14:13:31 <sgordon> correct
14:13:34 <cloudon> ta
14:14:06 <sgordon> so as above the next step will be to try take it and security segregation over there
14:14:38 <cloudon> do you think it needs any text changes first?
14:15:57 <sgordon> possibly, the key piece similar to the vIMS use case will be determining if it aligns with any of the broader product workgroup proposals
14:16:20 <sgordon> and if it more generically applicable than just NFV (probably)
14:17:06 <cloudon> NFV probably one of the likeliest use cases as the data plane is only really stressed by lots of small packets, but some HPC stuff could well be interested in the bits on NUMA, pinning etc.
14:18:21 <sgordon> right
14:20:38 <sgordon> so im at this stage ok to keep plugging away at moving those oer
14:20:40 <sgordon> *over
14:20:50 <sgordon> i may need feedback as to the justification etc. again
14:20:57 <cloudon> sure
14:22:39 <sgordon> #topic other discussion
14:22:49 <sgordon> cloudon, anything else you would like to discuss today? :)
14:23:05 <cloudon> nope, I'm fine :)
14:24:20 <sgordon> cool
14:24:23 <sgordon> thanks for your timr!
14:24:31 <cloudon> and you - cheers
14:25:36 <sgordon> #endmeeting