18:00:49 <JayF> #startmeeting tc
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18:00:56 <JayF> #info Today's meeting is being held primarily via video call. Action items and meeting minutes will be documented in IRC but for a full replay of the meeting, please visit the OpenStack TC youtube channel, where the recording will be uploaded soon.
18:01:02 <JayF> #link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBuGwBXOmWHydSE09RM84wQ
18:01:13 <JayF> Welcome to the weekly meeting of the OpenStack Technical Committee. A reminder that this meeting is held under the OpenInfra Code of Conduct available at https://openinfra.dev/legal/code-of-conduct.
18:01:16 <JayF> Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee.
18:01:20 <JayF> #topic Roll Call
18:01:24 <dansmith> o/
18:01:30 <knikolla> o/
18:01:30 <JayF> o/
18:01:31 <rosmaita> o/
18:01:56 <slaweq> o/
18:02:04 * slaweq will join zoom call in a minute or two
18:02:15 <JayF> we will wait until :05 for  you
18:03:43 <gmann> o/
18:04:14 <JayF> #topic Follow up on action items
18:04:31 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2024.1-leaderless
18:06:21 <JayF> Thanks gmann for following up on that action item.
18:07:25 <JayF> #action knikolla to complete documentation for unmaintained branch policy in releases.openstack.org; carryover from 2023-09-26
18:12:57 <JayF> #info TC will take a agenda item for next meeting around the future of TripleO if/when we retire wallaby under new unmaintained branch policy
18:14:32 <JayF> #topic Gate Health Check
18:17:43 <JayF> #info Concerns continue about heavy db usage in keystone; investigation is planned.
18:19:03 <JayF> #action knikolla (or delegate) by PTG will investigate DB usage patterns in Keystone. Progress to be tracked during intermediate TC meetings.
18:25:11 <JayF> #action JayF to ensure we have a cross-project performance session at the PTG centered around DB usage patterns; ensure SQLAlchemy and oslo.db maintainers and invested parties are invite. Specific focus on strangely-high query counts from Keystone and Neutron reported during devstack jobs.
18:25:35 <JayF> #topic Leaderless projects
18:25:47 <JayF> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2024.1-leaderless
18:36:39 <JayF> #action slaweq to propose a patch to openstack/governance for TC consideration to mark monasca inactive
18:37:05 <JayF> #info Monasca is identified as a project with low (5) user counts, failing gate, and inactive through last cycle. TC to consider marking inactive.
18:37:42 <JayF> #topic Call for Volunteers for Vice-Chair
18:43:59 <fungi> JayF: as for what the charter requires, it states that you will *seek* for a vice chair. but no, it doesn't say what happens if nobody volunteers
18:44:17 <JayF> #action JayF to appoint rosmaita as vice chair
18:44:36 <fungi> "The elected TC chair will seek another TC member to volunteer to serve as vice chair until the next chair election is held."
18:44:59 <JayF> #info Other interested parties are still welcome to volunteer as an additional vice-chair to learn about chair duties.
18:45:08 <JayF> #topic Open Discussion and Reviews
18:48:16 <JayF> #info Proposed times & Topics for TC PTG sessions are in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-ptg-october-2023
18:48:23 <JayF> Will email about ^ that after the TC.
18:51:28 <JayF> #action spotz[m] to take ownership of planning Operator Hour sessions for vPTG
18:53:26 <JayF> spotz[m]: I think for practical purposes it might have been aprice who had an etherpad with times/etherpads for the operator hours that was sent out afterwards?
18:54:07 <clarkb> one thing Iv'e thought may be helpful is prompting the folks you want to participate (in this case operators) with a specific task or interaction you want from them
18:54:38 <JayF> spotz[m]: looks like https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-September/030301.html is from last year
18:54:38 <clarkb> "bring a bug. we'll triage it together than pair you with a developer so that you can work together to fix it"
18:58:38 <fungi> not wanting to interrupt, but the ptg coordinators are talking about switching to jitsi-meet by default
18:58:45 <JayF> nice!
18:59:11 <fungi> the main concern is that announcing it this close to the event would be disruptive for some teams
18:59:41 <JayF> Yeah it probably would be; but it's nice to see the technology is to that point.
18:59:43 <fungi> and there are some changes needed to ptgbot to make that just a magical default
19:00:41 <fungi> google meet is not accessible in mainland china, as a data point
19:02:02 <JayF> #action JayF to see upsides/downsides to proposing jitsi-meet as technology for TC video meetings
19:04:13 <JayF> #endmeeting