17:01:33 #startmeeting tailgate 17:01:34 Meeting started Thu Jan 7 17:01:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:39 The meeting name has been set to 'tailgate' 17:01:47 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-12-17-17.03.html 17:01:55 #topic rollcall 17:01:58 o/ 17:03:38 here 17:03:47 hello again 17:03:51 malini: ping 17:04:05 pong 17:04:07 o/ 17:05:18 malini: welcome 17:05:23 anyone else around? 17:05:54 alright , moving on to last week's actions 17:06:00 #topic last meeting actions 17:06:11 spyderdyne: did you add dmellado to the mailing? 17:06:21 i couldnt figure out how to 17:06:27 i think malini manages it 17:06:36 i dont have exchange perms to edit 17:06:38 malini manages a cisco mailing list? 17:06:40 hmm..I don't 17:06:49 someone here does :) 17:07:01 Let me dig my old emails 17:07:05 spyderdyne: you did the set up of that list, I think 17:07:12 maybe the person in cisco is no longer with us 17:07:33 oh no 17:07:46 i didnt set that up. if i need to become admin i can dig inot it and figure it out 17:07:49 it was mthibaut 17:08:10 spyderdyne: could you try pinging him & see if you can take over the ML? 17:08:20 malini: +1 17:08:22 sounds good 17:08:27 since he is not involved anymore 17:08:30 I dont think anybody else would be able to manage the cisco list 17:08:42 on tht not we should have just been in google groups or something? 17:08:46 note* 17:08:55 we could activate the launchpad group list 17:08:59 and go with that one 17:09:02 sounds good 17:09:06 then anyone admin in that group can manage it 17:09:14 good idea 17:09:21 and i will see about retiring this one 17:09:28 and I believe that'll reduce the number of people subscribed 17:09:46 hopefully not by much 17:10:02 spyderdyne: let's coordinate, I will figure out how to subscribe users of that group to the mailing 17:10:15 i will see about copying the old member list to the new service 17:10:17 and then we can send an email with instructions on how to join the new list 17:10:28 i like it 17:10:29 spyderdyne: it will require people joining the group 17:10:36 and depend on them having launchpad accounts 17:10:36 good idea 17:10:46 we probably are spamming a few folks now :( 17:10:51 many of the members dont participate any more so i dont know that its a bad thing necessarily 17:10:54 right 17:11:12 yep, we'll do that then 17:11:25 #action spyderdyne and gema to coordinate the move to the new list 17:11:33 agreed 17:12:00 do we have any more topics from the last meeting? 17:12:02 then we had another action , malini, did you run mythos in rackspace? 17:12:05 yep 17:12:15 no :-$ 17:12:40 i have made a number of improvements since our last meeting 17:12:43 unfortunately I cant do it as my day job & life is coming into its way :/ 17:13:28 i could definitely do with some user feedback if anyone is able to try it out 17:14:24 i can even set up a time to meet and do a walkthrough if needed 17:14:45 I am putting together a demo that will be recorded in the next couple of weeks 17:14:56 spyderdyne: if you could show me that demo, that'll be helpful 17:15:03 because then I don't have a lot of learning to do 17:15:07 and can get on with it quicker 17:15:17 i will see if I can post it somewhere for everyone to look at 17:15:19 my problem is not resources (cloud to run on) my problem atm is time 17:15:32 naturally 17:16:01 ok, so let's leave it at I will run it after I watch the demo 17:16:26 #action spiderdyne will provide a demo of mythos and gema will run it in ubuntu and provide feedback 17:17:05 and the third and last action we had pending from last meeting is coming up with an actionable goal too accomplish before next ODS 17:17:15 I think this grants another topic 17:17:21 and an honest discussion 17:17:30 #topic next goal 17:17:59 my feeling is that we've lost the group we had at the beginning 17:18:04 the call for papers is open for the Austin summit 17:18:13 should be a big one too 17:18:16 due to divergent priorities, I think 17:18:28 so I am not sure where we are or where we are going now 17:18:42 some of them may have been absorbed by other teams too 17:18:47 yes 17:18:57 I know I put a lot of time into looking at defcore stuff 17:19:05 a lot of the spare time I have from everything else 17:19:10 but more than to tailgaters 17:19:36 i think that is the general concensus 17:19:50 on the other hand, I like to see what you guys are up to 17:20:12 so I am not sure how we move forward 17:20:19 i dont think we have made enough progress towards any achievable goals to attract much attention thus far 17:20:25 agreed 17:20:42 we spent the first 6 months trying to decide what we were supposed to be doing after all 17:20:43 :) 17:20:54 yep 17:21:02 and now we are still doing the same 17:21:31 & as long as we just have our personal spare time for this, its really hard to make progress 17:21:51 should we abandon? 17:22:09 Its hard to say yes to that :( 17:22:24 at the least, we can pick each other's brain on how to test 17:22:38 do we have any goals that we fell we can address that arent covered by other efforts? 17:22:52 for me, not anymore 17:22:54 i support that 17:23:15 agreed 17:23:28 everything i have done support the performance and benchmarking team 17:23:40 yep 17:23:56 i planned on attending those meetings starting next week anyway 17:24:04 spyderdyne: when are they? 17:24:07 I'd like to attend those too 17:24:18 participation has been minimal, and a number of members who were with us at the start have gone 17:25:29 tuesdays at 16:00 UTC 17:25:36 sounds good 17:25:39 will add it to my calendar 17:25:52 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Performance_Team 17:26:35 defcore's meetings are also at 4pm UTC on Wednesdays 17:27:00 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/DefCoreCommittee 17:27:16 I think I vote for abandoning as well 17:27:30 in favor of focussing on all the other things we've discovered 17:27:45 and are aligned with our interests/needs 17:27:59 one thing that remains to be answered is how to test a deployed cloud 17:28:31 but I think that defcore with the compliance stuff are answering that one also 17:28:37 right 17:28:56 and I feel I'd like to contribute tests and ideas there 17:29:10 plus they have the big guns :D 17:29:15 and i am participating in an effort across multiple platinum and gold member organizations to define these things to present to the governance board 17:29:50 i think we missed our window or opportunity in this group 17:29:52 spyderdyne: so that'll all be public as well? 17:30:16 malini: you are quiet 17:30:38 well - I agree with the two of you 17:30:56 we haven't been able to pique much interest or get anything done 17:30:59 its essentially a state fair of large stakeholders competing in a massive environment provided by intel, the results of which will be adopted across the board 17:31:17 bah. sorry, late. 17:31:26 beisner: just in time to say goodbye :P 17:31:30 ha! 17:31:32 lol 17:31:33 hi. 17:31:45 I'd like to keep this channel though 17:31:49 and keep in touch 17:31:54 was abt to ask that :) 17:31:56 we are discussing the relevance of this team versus contributing our efforts elsewhere 17:32:47 alright, so what now 17:32:55 do we send an email with the conclusion to the mailing 17:32:59 or do we set a vote 17:32:59 if we can keep the repo, I would like to look at creating a PPA at some point 17:33:08 spyderdyne: that is there to stay 17:33:13 ok, good 17:33:14 and I think we should still move the mailing 17:33:19 we should 17:33:24 condense it 17:33:29 and have whoever wants to tstay in touch to join 17:33:43 i intend to do the following for PPAs 17:34:18 1. create a mythos PPA for each of the projects contained therein for installing mythos-odin, mythos-medusa, etc. 17:34:43 2. add a medusa phoronix test suite for the openbenchmarking.org stuff 17:35:08 on the latter i have been in constant contact with its creator and he is very supporting 17:35:43 spyderdyne: sounds good 17:36:06 #action gema to summarize our discussion from today and send it to the list 17:36:25 I will explain we are cancelling this meeting and moving the mailing to launchpad 17:36:41 and that we are keeping this channel and the launchpad mailing/team to keep in touch 17:37:04 that we will be contributing to other projects 17:37:13 sounds like a fair summary? 17:37:44 correct 17:37:53 ok, will do that 17:38:05 do we have anything else to discuss? 17:38:11 (today) 17:38:38 none from me 17:38:42 #action spyderdyne to investigate the current internal mailing and attempt to transfer the addresses to the new list 17:39:08 spyderdyne: you? 17:39:39 you create the new list and I will see about closing out the new one and saving the list 17:39:55 closing out the old one, sorry 17:40:03 spyderdyne: ok, if you manage to get all the emails we can send an email to all with instructions on how to join the group 17:40:06 in case they want to 17:40:11 I wouldn't do mass subscription 17:40:12 yep 17:40:36 otherwise we'll send the email to all the names in the etherpad 17:40:40 ok, well thanks for your help everyone 17:40:52 thank you all for coming and for your time :) 17:41:01 we will stay in touch 17:41:03 spyderdyne: I still want to run mythos on ubuntu 17:41:13 and get you the feedback 17:41:17 do you hvae my email? 17:41:19 yep 17:41:23 ok 17:41:33 just get with me offline 17:41:37 ok 17:41:48 i will publish updates to the new mailer 17:41:56 perfect, thanks 17:42:02 calling it a day then 17:42:07 if noone has anything else 17:42:12 bye everyone! 17:42:16 bye for now! 17:42:22 #endmeeting