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08:08:11 <keiko-k> Thanks
08:08:18 <hyunsikyang__> sorry I just try test it..
08:08:23 <keiko-k> that's okay
08:08:28 <yasufum> thanks
08:09:06 <hyunsikyang__> What is the today's topic?
08:09:14 <yasufum> I would like to continue discussion for networking-sfc today
08:09:19 <hyunsikyang__> can we discuss about networing-sfc?
08:09:21 <hyunsikyang__> ok
08:09:35 <hyunsikyang__> #topic networking-sfc
08:09:35 <yasufum> although takahashi-san does not join yet
08:09:53 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:10:46 <hyunsikyang__> Our team try to cover networking-sfc part:)
08:10:55 <amotoki> hi
08:10:58 <amotoki> I am here from the neutron perspective. I originally raised networking-sfc topic to takahashi-san internally.
08:11:02 <hyunsikyang__> Hi amotoki
08:11:06 <yasufum> hi
08:11:10 <keiko-k> hello
08:11:16 <hyunsikyang__> hi
08:11:17 <masazumi-ota> hi
08:11:19 <ueha> hi
08:11:26 <amotoki> go ahead :)
08:12:26 <hyunsikyang__> So, we will start it from the current status of networking sfc in tacker.
08:13:15 <hyunsikyang__> As a perspective of tacker, it is important features. So, I want to maintain it.
08:14:07 <yasufum> Do you mean as a core reviwer?
08:15:18 <hyunsikyang__> yes.
08:16:05 <yasufum> I can contribute as a +1 reviwer.
08:16:55 <hyunsikyang__> thx. It is good feature for tacker. We will start to check networking sfc feature in tacker internally.
08:17:19 <yasufum> amotoki, do you know how many contributers required for maintaining the project roughly?
08:17:42 <amotoki> yasufum: roughly speaking, there is NO contirbutors specific to networking-sfc.
08:18:06 <amotoki> neutron core team is helping the sfc reviews from the maintenance perspectivve
08:18:24 <amotoki> but the neutron core team have no good knowledge on sfc features.
08:18:45 <amotoki> it just covers gate failures and topics which are neutron-wide.
08:18:50 <amotoki> that's the current status.
08:19:36 <amotoki> so it would be nice if folks from tacker team can be involved in reviews in networkng-sfc.
08:20:05 <amotoki> yasufum: sorry. I misunderstood your question.
08:20:18 <amotoki> your question was how many contributors are required.
08:20:24 <yasufum> yes
08:20:35 <amotoki> I am not sure the right number
08:21:26 <amotoki> I think we can do small start just by checking reviews and so on together.
08:21:38 <hyunsikyang__> right
08:22:32 <amotoki> perhaps what we need is volunteers for reviewing/triaging bugs from feature perspective.
08:22:55 <yasufum> neuron cores continue add +2 for merging, right?
08:23:20 <hyunsikyang__> amotoki, If you know the feature link, please update it here.
08:23:28 <amotoki> yasufum: what do you mean by "add +2"?
08:23:59 <yasufum> I wonder how we check and merge patches
08:24:41 <yasufum> Merging patch requires one or two +2 basically, right?
08:24:53 <amotoki> yasufum: yes, +W right is needed.
08:24:57 <amotoki> there are several options to start.
08:25:35 <amotoki> the one is to consider +1 from folks familiar with sfc (like tacker team) as +2 and merge patches by the neutron team
08:25:51 <amotoki> the other is to add tacker team to the netwokring-sfc core team.
08:26:22 <yasufum> I see
08:26:38 <yasufum> I though second one, but I understand it can be flexible.
08:27:39 <amotoki> the first one would be a step to networking-sfc core reviewers.
08:27:59 <amotoki> the second option sounds like a co-maintenance of netwokring-sfc by neutron and tacker team together.
08:28:13 <amotoki> I have no strong option on this.
08:29:34 <amotoki> co-maintenace sounds a good option.
08:29:40 <amotoki> for example, the horizon team do similar for horizon plugins.
08:30:17 <takahashi-tsc> Sorry for late...
08:30:20 <yasufum> hi
08:30:25 <hyunsikyang__> Hi
08:32:48 <yasufum> I am not sure about scheme of co-maintenance, but it seems good.
08:34:34 <amotoki> what are unclear? for example, what roles are expected?
08:34:52 <yasufum> yes, that’s right
08:35:33 <yasufum> but I can learn from
08:36:02 <amotoki> from the neutron governance perspective, we have point of contacts per sub project like networking-sfc
08:36:11 <amotoki> https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/neutron-teams.html#sub-project-lieutenants
08:37:08 <amotoki> it is called as "Lieutenants " in the neutron team
08:38:15 <yasufum> thanks
08:38:27 <hyunsikyang__> Like a before, why don't you take a role of lieutenant? yasufum?
08:39:05 <amotoki> the reason I raised this topic this time is we didn't do it officially.
08:39:36 <amotoki> I talked with dharmendra directly and he said he could be a contact for netwokring-sfc in Ussuri cycle.
08:39:54 <hyunsikyang__> ah.
08:40:03 <amotoki> I think it is better to disucss it as a team.
08:40:13 <hyunsikyang__> OK. I thought he left this team:)
08:40:27 <amotoki> yeah, he changed companies during ussuri cycle.
08:41:38 <yasufum> hyunsikyang: I am not sure to make a time for the role now.
08:42:03 <yasufum> pls continue to talk on next meeting or tacker IRC.
08:42:14 <amotoki> personally (from my hat of neutron) it would be great if the tacker team is involved in development of networking-sfc.
08:42:35 <yasufum> I think so
08:42:57 <hyunsikyang__> thanks amotoki, we are trying to join for that.
08:43:45 <hyunsikyang__> if dharmendra can do it continueously, just leave it.
08:44:01 <hyunsikyang__> and tacker team just support it.
08:45:26 <amotoki> let me summarize what the neutron team do on a stadium project. I think it helps better understanding.
08:45:31 <hyunsikyang__> Anyway, now tacker team have a consensus about joining networking-sfc, let's decide concrete plan for that.
08:45:40 <hyunsikyang__> yes
08:45:59 <hyunsikyang__> If you have a time, please share it anytime in tacker IRC.
08:46:12 <amotoki> hyunsikyang__: sure. what is better?
08:46:53 <amotoki> hyunsikyang__: I am usually not there, so I can join when needed.
08:47:06 <amotoki> s/what/when/
08:47:40 <hyunsikyang__> ok.
08:48:06 <amotoki> I think you have more topics in this meeting. let's cover it later.
08:48:13 <hyunsikyang__> OK:)
08:48:27 <yasufum> thanks, amotoki
08:48:41 <hyunsikyang__> let's make a list for that later and decide it during the vPTG.
08:49:49 <hyunsikyang__> thanks.
08:50:06 <hyunsikyang__> yasufum, do we have more topic, today?
08:50:20 <yasufum> yes,
08:50:42 <yasufum> do you some other topics, everyone?
08:51:03 <yasufum> for next PTG, or patch review
08:51:08 <yasufum> or so
08:51:24 <hyunsikyang__> I don't have it. today.
08:51:56 <yoshito-ito> let me ask about C-VNF topic in vPTG
08:52:20 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Victoria
08:52:21 <hyunsikyang__> ok:)
08:52:56 <yoshito-ito> I'm preparing a spec for CNF operation based on ETSI specifications
08:53:21 <hyunsikyang__> you mean that CISM?
08:53:31 <hyunsikyang__> we are also prepare it. if CISM is right.
08:53:41 <yoshito-ito> Yes
08:54:28 <yoshito-ito> I assume we can extend the existing Kubernete infra driver to support vnflcm related operation as VNF
08:54:34 <hyunsikyang__> right
08:54:41 <hyunsikyang__> So we are preparing it.
08:55:15 <hyunsikyang__> Now, kubernetes in tacker is not scalable, and not correspond to ETSI spec.
08:55:19 <hyunsikyang__> So, It needs it.
08:55:32 <yoshito-ito> then how about sharing the specs before vPTG?
08:55:45 <hyunsikyang__> what is the mean of spec?
08:55:47 <hyunsikyang__> blueprint?
08:56:00 <yoshito-ito> blueprint and spec for V cycle
08:56:08 <hyunsikyang__> okie:) good.
08:57:21 <yoshito-ito> I'll talk to yasufum how to share our specs and let me discuss at IRC or next meeting
08:58:06 <hyunsikyang__> ok
08:58:15 <yoshito-ito> thanks
08:59:12 <amotoki> does anyone add the networking-sfc topic to the vPTG etherpad?
08:59:13 <yasufum> I think it is OK to share your draft on etherpad if possible
08:59:24 <amotoki> If so I can add my note there.
09:00:13 <amotoki> sorry for interrupt....
09:00:23 <takahashi-tsc> OK, I add it amotoki
09:00:23 <yasufum> no problem. it is welcome
09:00:48 <amotoki> takahashi-tsc: thanks
09:00:53 <hyunsikyang__> thanks all
09:01:30 <yasufum> can we wrap up because it is the end of the time?
09:01:45 <hyunsikyang__> ok Let's finish it.
09:01:49 <yasufum> if anyone has a topic
09:02:03 <yasufum> does not has a topic,sorry
09:02:24 <yasufum> thanks hyunsikyang
09:02:35 <hyunsikyang__> ok. let's finish it and if someone has a topic,let's talk in tacker IRC
09:02:36 <hyunsikyang__> #endmeeting