04:31:10 #startmeeting tacker 04:31:12 Meeting started Wed Aug 23 04:31:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:31:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 04:31:15 The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' 04:31:19 o/ 04:31:29 #topic roll call 04:31:35 O/ 04:31:43 trinaths-m, YanXing_an hi 04:31:52 Hi all 04:31:57 o/ 04:32:06 o/ 04:32:16 tung_doan_, hi 04:32:18 tung_doan hi 04:32:28 xuanjia, nice to meet you. 04:32:43 xuanjia: big welcome :) 04:32:45 o/ 04:32:59 tung_doan_, which company do you work for? 04:33:08 Welcome, xuanjia, PTL from OPNFV 04:33:39 Nice to see you here, xuanjia :) 04:34:08 Nice to see all of you :) I am the PTL of container4nfv in OPNFV . 04:34:35 Hi xuanji 04:34:36 looking forwarding to seeing how tacker supports container vnf in MANO. 04:34:36 I am a member of Korea Open Networking project supported by Korea Minster 04:34:50 gongysh: i will ask my boss to get official email soon :) 04:35:49 phuoc_, you too? 04:36:38 s/Minster/Minister 04:37:18 #topic coding patches 04:37:37 gongysh, I am colleague of tung_doan 04:37:47 YanXing_an, where is your beautiful state transition diagram doc? 04:39:01 gongysh, already finished vnf diagram, is drawing ns&vnffg's diagram 04:39:30 YanXing_an, ok 04:39:40 o/ 04:39:47 tbh hi 04:40:18 What are those diagram for? 04:40:22 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473861/, I already put it in this patch 04:40:54 VNF/VNFFG/NS in PENDING_DELETE status can't be deleted correctly. 04:41:12 xuanjia: we have a working vpp vnf on arm . 04:42:28 YanXing_an, fhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/473861/4/test-requirements.txt 04:42:34 trinaths-m, great. we can talk it later :) YanXing_an you can go on. 04:43:00 it seems you are specifying wrong version or not existed third software in this file. 04:43:05 No worries 04:44:12 Gongysh, yeh, I saw the CI failure, will update it 04:44:20 how's your patch going? 04:44:28 tung_doan_, how's your patch going? 04:44:52 I have to cut out pike branch this week. 04:45:56 gongysh: phuoc_ and I are working locally on it. now we can update chain after scaling out 04:45:59 gongysh: I would like to request for releasing tacker in the end of this month. Is is possible, gongysh? 04:46:15 or next week. So sorry for that :( 04:46:28 tung_doan_, I am afraid we cannot. 04:46:56 gongysh: which day are you planing to release tacker? 04:47:12 at the end of friday. 04:47:18 this friday. 04:47:46 tung_doan_, this is from release team: We haven't seen tacker branch yet for pike. Just a courtesy reminder that that will need to be done this coming week. Please drop in the #openstack-release channel if you have any questions or need any help. 04:48:19 gongysh: got it. 04:48:57 gongysh: do you know if dkushwaha can keep up with the dealine? 04:49:18 gongysh: i will remind him abt it 04:49:24 I don't think dkushwaha will be able to do it. 04:51:18 tung_doan_, I think we should cut out pike branch without patches from dkushwaha and tung_doan_. 04:51:44 I test dkushwaha's patch this morning, reappear the issue that he raised 04:51:50 gongysh: let me try to finish util thursday 04:52:00 tung_doan_, ok 04:52:13 and on friday we will request you for review 04:52:24 i will cherrypick if having any issues 04:52:48 gongysh: thanks 04:52:53 tung_doan_, ok, lets have a try. 04:53:43 YanXing_an, what is the problem with 'https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486924/' 04:54:24 see you guys, i need to go back to produce patches :)) 04:54:28 Mistral can not see the ping_action defined in tacker 04:55:04 I think it's code problem 04:55:24 ok 04:56:32 #topic open discussion 04:56:52 just I have said, we will have pike branch this friday. 04:57:10 so please keep hard working if you want the codes merged. 04:57:31 xuanjia, hi 04:57:45 do you have anything to talk about container vnf? 04:58:17 i want to know how Tosca supports container template or k8s template ? is there any discussion now ? 04:58:26 not yet. 04:58:34 phuoc_, do you have any plan? 04:58:49 janki had a proposal on this 04:58:51 gongysh, I have plan to use K8s as VIM 04:59:17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit# i see phuoc_ 's doc. we also agree use k8s as VIM 04:59:19 so I and Janki discussed about it 04:59:19 xuanjia, does industry have related standards? 05:00:06 and I think if we want to deploy c-VNF in Kubernetes, we need Tosca-to-Kubernetes translator 05:00:23 phuoc_, have you seen any related industry standards? 05:00:25 gongysh, not yet. so my question is how can we collaborate to contribute our requirements to TOSCA and let TOSCA support it . Then we can know how tacker support container vnf. 05:01:18 gongysh, I think it is the trend and Telco companies are looking for this feature 05:01:55 and K8S acts like openstack heat and do more things than openstack heat. 05:02:04 and until now, there are not much standards for container VNF yet 05:02:06 xuanjia, we have no experience to do this kind of stuff (contribute to TOSCA). if you have, tacker team can help to verify it, and support the standards. 05:02:35 okay.thanks :) 05:02:53 xuanjia, I got a meesage that huawei is doing the C-VNF standards. 05:02:55 if tosca support it , the work for tacker will be easiler :) 05:03:13 xuanjia: yes 05:03:13 oh? do you know who is working on it ? 05:03:44 let me verify it for huawei guys :) 05:03:55 Its better if we can bring the beta feature of containerized VNF in Tacker 05:04:16 do you know bai chang ming of china mobile, the C-RAN team? 05:04:24 yep. 05:04:36 he told me the message. 05:04:46 okay, got it . 05:05:04 and another question is the 'figure 2' in the https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit# 05:06:04 For tacker team, seems you keep openstack heat and k8s infr driver as a seperate VNFM. is it right ? 05:06:36 xuanjia: sorry its my proposal :) 05:06:47 and it can be change 05:07:48 okay. we need to discuss it in future. 05:07:56 so, I pretend to K8s as infra driver in VNFM, not the new one 05:08:06 xuanjia, I think it is just a proposal. you can put your comments there. 05:08:58 okay. will do that. 05:09:11 xuanjia, gongysh I hope to get more help to figure out things 05:09:24 i think we need to let TOSCA team to be involved in . 05:09:39 And for k8s cluster itself, I think we just use the cluster, not to manage the cluster. we should not care if the magnum or not. 05:10:19 just like the heat driver, tacker does not manage the openstack. 05:10:22 gongysh, me too 05:10:28 yes. your're right. 05:11:03 xuanjia, TOSCA team, do you have any contact? 05:11:07 no... 05:11:23 ok 05:11:34 i think it need both of us to do it :) 05:11:35 I see the old PTL of Tacker, he joined Tosca comittee 05:12:10 phuoc_, I will try to contact him. thanks 05:12:29 for PTG, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-queen-grooming 05:12:39 gongysh, thanks 05:12:58 the time is coming close. please propose your ideas. 05:13:14 sure 05:13:49 okay. so if you contact with TOSCA team, please let me know, i think it's the most difficlut things for this part. 05:14:01 trinaths, can you have a talk about topicss you got approval from openstack summits? 05:14:35 gongysh, trinaths thanks :) 05:14:56 sure 05:15:12 2 talks on Tacker with tacker team 05:15:17 1 talk on security 05:15:19 #action, gongysh to get contact with sridaram for tosca team about the c-VNF. 05:15:33 its an Ligthning talk 05:15:58 what are your 2 talks on Tacker with tacker team? 05:16:34 https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19242/openstack-tacker-102-hands-on-lab 05:16:42 https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19240/openstack-collaboration-made-in-heaven-with-mistral-neutron-tacker-and-more 05:16:58 https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19044/sdn-and-nfv-integrated-openstack-cloud-birds-eye-view-on-security 05:17:59 great. 05:18:11 thanks for the tacker promotion jobs. 05:18:28 anything else? 05:18:32 gongysh: yes.. all this happened with the support of our PTL, gongysh 05:18:49 trinaths, :) 05:19:07 at lab we need more tacker devs to help people on tacker lab activities 05:19:24 so that all their debugging and doubts are cleared. 05:19:54 gongysh: you have a session at summit 05:20:16 I will have project update and a SDN hub session. 05:20:59 great sir 05:21:07 https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=sdn+hub 05:21:21 project update is from community. 05:21:32 gongysh: its your R&D project 05:21:46 sdn hub is a R&D project. 05:21:49 trinaths, yes. 05:22:19 gongysh: nice. a must attend session 05:22:34 anything else? 05:22:42 i'm off 05:22:49 YanXing_an, hi 05:22:52 anything? 05:23:12 i will update the vnffg-ns spec when it finished after this week. 05:23:32 YanXing_an, ok, that will be Queens feature. 05:23:45 gongysh: i fot got 05:23:45 I have an deep research on mistral last week, and have some thoughts about how to deploy vnffg in ns 05:24:08 forgot* my osc support. Please move it to queen. i will complete it by q2 05:24:22 gongysh: sorry i missed it. 05:24:36 trinaths, never mind. 05:24:47 ok, thanks everyone. 05:24:52 #endmeeting