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16:05:17 <sridhar_ram> #topic Roll Call
16:05:26 <KanagarajM> hi
16:05:31 <manikanta-tadi> o/
16:05:43 <sridhar_ram> Hi folks !
16:05:46 <vishwanathj> o/
16:05:50 <sripriya> o/
16:05:56 <tung_doan> o/
16:06:02 <sridhar_ram> sorry for the late start
16:06:03 <s3wong> o/
16:06:08 <bobh> o/
16:06:11 <n-harada> o/
16:06:27 <sridhar_ram> let's start
16:06:31 <sridhar_ram> #topic Agenda
16:06:50 <sridhar_ram> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Sep_20th.2C_2016
16:06:57 <sridhar_ram> anything else ?
16:07:18 <sridhar_ram> I also want to briefly start the discussion on Barcelona Design Summit agenda
16:07:22 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, nice !
16:07:31 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: thanks!
16:07:41 <sridhar_ram> #topic Announcements
16:08:00 <sridhar_ram> #chair sripriya bobh s3wong KanagarajM
16:08:01 <openstack> Current chairs: KanagarajM bobh s3wong sridhar_ram sripriya
16:09:31 <sridhar_ram> OpenStack CLI reference guide include Tacker CLIs...
16:09:38 <sridhar_ram> #link http://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/tacker.html
16:09:50 <sridhar_ram> Please bookmark this ^^^
16:10:23 <diga> o/
16:10:45 <sridhar_ram> This also means we can skip documenting CLI syntax in our usage guide docs and use that instead to describe the feature and its functional benefits
16:11:24 <sridhar_ram> next ..
16:11:41 <sridhar_ram> You folks stuck with me as the PTL for one more cycle :)
16:11:45 <sridhar_ram> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103881.html
16:12:12 <sridhar_ram> I've listed few of my thoughts in this email above ^^^
16:12:25 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: congrats!
16:12:37 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: thanks!
16:12:43 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, +1 congrats :)
16:12:44 <diga> sripriya: Congrats!
16:12:50 <diga> sridhar_ram: congrats
16:13:15 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: congrats!
16:13:17 <vishwanathj> congrats
16:13:31 <sridhar_ram> it just gives me a chance to write about all the amazing things this team delivered ... !
16:14:02 <sridhar_ram> Thanks folks
16:14:25 <sridhar_ram> I'll also plan for a Newton Retrospective for the next weekly meeting.. please come with your thoughts on what worked well and what didn't ..
16:14:36 <sridhar_ram> .. we will course correct going forward.
16:14:40 <sridhar_ram> moving on
16:14:50 <sridhar_ram> #topic Newton Outstanding items
16:15:21 <sridhar_ram> We are in the last few days for Newton.. mostly for integration issues..
16:15:30 <sridhar_ram> ... except for Alarm Mon.. which is an exception
16:15:36 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: where do we stand ?
16:16:11 <sridhar_ram> anyone who reviewed alarm mon - I'd like to hear your opinion
16:16:14 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: alar monitor  is ready to merge now.. just need some minor changes
16:16:28 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: alarm + scaling was lauched
16:16:36 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: good news!
16:17:02 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: I need a bit time to finish usage guide
16:17:30 <sridhar_ram> again, please keep in mind this (and FFG) will be marked experimental features for Newton... we just need to understand the "boundary" of this
16:17:39 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: the feature looks fine, i have few concern on the design, but i think we can take it in the next iteration
16:18:15 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: usage guide fix ups can come in immediate follow ons.. i want to get in this feature so that it gets atleast few days of soak time
16:18:27 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: also because the token is set to tacker user context, i’m not sure how the UI is impacted during the webhook callback
16:18:36 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: anything that would impact existing features (collateral damage) ?
16:19:07 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: nothing for now
16:19:23 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: you mean, the respawn & scale out will happen using different user than the original vnf user ?
16:20:05 <sridhar_ram> bobh: KanagarajM: did you folks had a chance to review this feature ?
16:20:37 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: i’m suspecting that, i can confirm it to you today, i had few issues with my local setup when i pulled this feature yest.
16:20:43 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, I didn't. sorry ...
16:21:02 <bobh> sridhar_ram: me neither - I'll try to get to it tonight
16:21:04 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: sounds good.. thanks a ton for pulling this and trying out..
16:21:13 * bobh 30 lashes....
16:21:13 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: no worries
16:21:24 <sridhar_ram> bobh: thanks
16:21:26 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: np
16:21:28 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: thanks all
16:21:41 * sridhar_ram pardons bobh
16:22:20 <sridhar_ram> i know dkushwaha and gongysh pitched in .. again making this a team effort.. awesome folks
16:22:32 <sridhar_ram> hopefully we can gets this in by tomorrow
16:22:45 <sridhar_ram> next.. VNF FFG
16:22:56 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: can you give an update on n-sfc driver ?
16:23:09 <trozet> sridhar_ram: going to test it in the next hour or so
16:23:18 <sridhar_ram> trozet: ah, welcome..
16:23:39 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: I did some update --- the NeutronClient problem should be fixed by now
16:23:57 <sridhar_ram> trozet: s3wong: sounds good..
16:24:04 <sridhar_ram> i'm in the testing team as well :)
16:24:13 <sridhar_ram> i'll pull the latest n-sfc driver ..
16:24:14 <diga> trozet: Downloading ubuntu16.04, hope my setup will complete by today EOD. Will let you know once done
16:24:40 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: right now for some reason, my Python and the python within tox doesn't give me the same neutronclient
16:24:44 <trozet> diga: cool
16:24:49 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: can we setup ubuntu 16.04 on gate for functional testing?
16:25:08 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: still need to figure it out (I just upgrade my VM to 16.04 yesterday)
16:25:32 <diga> trozet: :)
16:25:51 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: yes, i just looked into this yesterday.. it is easy, i just need to mark the node type to xenial .. but i'm concerned doing this release week
16:25:53 <KanagarajM> s3wong, sripriya, sridhar_ram, how does the ubutu version affect the tacker testing ?
16:26:20 <s3wong> sripriya: depends on whether we actually want networking-sfc running as part of our gate
16:26:31 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: for now, newer Ubuntu pulls newer OVS (v2.5) which is a must for n-sfc
16:26:32 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: okay
16:26:59 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, oh ok thanks
16:27:42 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: func test for ffg + n-sfc needs to come in a follow on.. we can have a separate dsvm job just for ffg+n-sfc and mark that job to use xenial (16.04)
16:28:09 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: ok
16:28:19 <sridhar_ram> trozet: s3wong: can you take ownership of this work item ... even if this mean post stable/newton ?
16:28:58 <sripriya> s3wong: maybe having a separate job as above would be good
16:29:19 <diga> sripriya: sridhar_ram
16:29:21 <trozet> sridhar_ram: i'm definitely not experienced in modifying OS CI, only OPNFV
16:29:29 <trozet> sridhar_ram: but I can try (would like to learn)
16:29:51 <trozet> might take me longer to figure out it out than someone else who already knows it
16:29:52 <sridhar_ram> trozet: no worries, i understand.. anyone from the wider tacker community want to take this up
16:30:02 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: sure
16:31:09 <sridhar_ram> I'm looking to spread Tacker CI job knowledge to the wider tacker community... i can guide anyone who signs up
16:32:09 <sridhar_ram> Let me summarize the plans for VNF FFG -
16:32:19 <sridhar_ram> (1) wrap final integration testing for n-sfc driver by Wednesday and merge the n-sfc driver patchset by Wed EOD
16:32:23 <tbh> sridhar_ram, I can take it up, if you want
16:32:58 <sridhar_ram> (2) trozet owns writing a devref for VNF FFG and this needs to wrap and merge by Friday
16:33:29 <sridhar_ram> (3) func test and CI job using 16.04 dsvm will be added post newton release
16:33:45 <sridhar_ram> tbh: thanks, that will be a good skill set for you to pick up
16:33:56 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: sounds like a good plan
16:34:11 <sridhar_ram> tbh: so, you own (3) above. Sounds okay ?
16:34:13 <diga> sridhar_ram: +1
16:34:20 <tbh> sridhar_ram, yes
16:34:31 <sridhar_ram> tbh: thanks!
16:34:35 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: diga: ack!
16:34:43 <sridhar_ram> trozet: what do you think ?
16:35:11 <diga> sridhar_ram: I can take func test if you want
16:35:39 <sridhar_ram> diga: let tbh take a swing at it first, we can percolate that knowledge further as needed
16:35:45 <diga> if tbh is ok with it :)
16:35:57 <diga> yep
16:36:15 <sridhar_ram> anything else related to Newton ?
16:36:42 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, one small patch on scaling :)
16:36:45 <sridhar_ram> I'll request the final newton tag and release request by Monday Sept 26th
16:36:52 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: link pls
16:36:53 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: we have few non feature related patches that needs to be merged
16:37:02 <KanagarajM> https://review.openstack.org/371368
16:37:15 <trozet> sridhar_ram: fine with me
16:37:24 <sridhar_ram> trozet: thanks!
16:37:48 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: pls flag them in the channel after this meeting.. hopefully it is a short list
16:37:58 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: yes
16:38:13 <sridhar_ram> tbh: btw, did the heat-translator fix merge ?
16:39:01 <tbh> sridhar_ram, KanagarajM  decided to go with the scaling changes in Tacker
16:39:02 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, seems tbh is not there .. we had a quick meeting today
16:39:13 <KanagarajM> tbh, pls go ahead :)
16:39:14 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: bobh: team: is any of your features waiting for a newer tosca-parser or heat-translator ?
16:39:39 <sridhar_ram> tbh: KanagarajM: can you elaborate on the new plan?
16:39:53 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, as this the release time, i have asked to make sure that new translator does not break tacker functioanlity
16:40:22 <bobh> sridhar_ram: I just chatted with spzala and we may hold the new heat translator version until after Newton releases
16:40:23 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: +2, i was super worried about that as well
16:40:29 <KanagarajM> and it was concluded that, if anything break, translator would provide an quick fix on it
16:40:33 <bobh> sridhar_ram: so we can get a whole cycle in with the changes
16:40:37 <sridhar_ram> bobh: phew, sigh of relief
16:40:41 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, yes,
16:41:21 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: now, what is the plan to support selective VDU scaling ?
16:41:44 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: assuming, we are not going to wait for a fix in heat-translator
16:42:14 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, in newton, i think its not possible :( and we could enable it early ocata.
16:42:35 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: ouch :(
16:42:51 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, considering the time for release, i would like to go this way, instead of breaking existing support atleast !
16:42:53 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: is there any work around (bug fix) possible in the tacker scaling code itself ?
16:43:21 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: overall i agree, new heat-translator version at this stage is risky
16:43:41 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, workarround, might not possible now.
16:44:52 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: okay, can you place a "Note" in the scaling devref regarding this ?
16:44:55 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, because, it would involve more no. of lines in tacker side, which would repeat the logics from the heat translaotr
16:45:11 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, sure. I will do that.
16:45:36 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: would those new lines isolated to the scaling logic of Tacker ?
16:47:19 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, i don't think so and it would be part of the scaling logic and it would need to change the way tmpl generated in tacker heat driver. at this point in time, it would be risky to even address it
16:47:39 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: I see..
16:47:57 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: okay
16:48:23 <KanagarajM> sridhar_ram, thanks.
16:48:31 <sridhar_ram> tbh: bobh: KanagarajM: spzala: thanks for trying hard on this.. i appreciate it. I agree it is not work the risk at this stage..
16:48:42 <sridhar_ram> *not worth
16:49:09 * sridhar_ram notes 10mins left
16:49:18 <sridhar_ram> anything else on Newton ?
16:49:42 <sridhar_ram> #topic Ocata Planning
16:50:10 <sridhar_ram> Few quick notes on Barcelona Design Summit
16:50:13 <sridhar_ram> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true
16:50:27 <diga> sridhar_ram: I have submitted API framework spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368511/
16:50:32 <diga> please review
16:50:47 <sridhar_ram> Please mark you calendars for Tacker design summit slot mentioned in the above schedule ^^^^
16:51:18 <sridhar_ram> I also created an etherpad to "all-things-barcelona" here..
16:51:20 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-ocata-summit
16:51:36 <sridhar_ram> Please use this for all summit related things
16:51:56 <sridhar_ram> diga: sure, will review
16:52:04 <diga> ok
16:52:29 <sridhar_ram> IMO, we should wrap up the low-hanging fruit items for Ocata .. which is VNFC and NSD spec..
16:52:44 <sridhar_ram> shall we shoot to land these two specs within next two weeks ?
16:53:09 <sridhar_ram> tbh: dkushwaha: manikanta_tadi: what do you think ?
16:53:47 <manikanta-tadi> We can try
16:54:01 <tbh> sridhar_ram, sure I am not sure will get the reviews on the spec at this moment
16:54:44 <sridhar_ram> I'll give a shout out to the reviewers and core team to start reviewing VNFC and NSD
16:55:09 <tbh> sridhar_ram, because we still not decided the VNFC drivers to support yet
16:55:20 <tbh> sridhar_ram, :) thanks
16:55:41 <sridhar_ram> tbh: let's put VNFC for next week's call
16:56:15 <sridhar_ram> we are out of time for today..
16:56:27 <tbh> sridhar_ram, sure, that will be helpful
16:56:30 <sridhar_ram> please continue to think along the lines we documented for Ocata ..
16:56:37 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-ocata-grooming
16:56:51 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion
16:57:00 <sridhar_ram> anything else team ?
16:57:34 <sridhar_ram> lets wrap then
16:57:40 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting