16:00:35 <sridhar_ram> #startmeeting tacker
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16:00:48 <sridhar_ram> #topic Roll Call
16:00:56 <manikanta_tadi> Hi All
16:00:57 <sridhar_ram> hi folks!
16:01:01 <vishwanathj> o/
16:01:05 <s3wong> o/
16:01:06 <lulei> o/
16:01:12 <tung_doan> hi all
16:01:12 <lulei> hi All
16:01:24 <tbh> o/
16:01:28 <n_harada> Hi, I'm new to Tacker and this is my first time to join weekly meeting.
16:01:29 <neel> o/
16:01:43 <s3wong> n_harada: welcome
16:02:01 <sridhar_ram> lulei: tung_doan: vishwanathj: s3wong: tbh: manikanta_tadi: n_harada: neel: Good morning, afternoon, evening.. late night, for some of you ;)
16:02:06 <diga__> o/
16:02:09 <sripriya> o/
16:02:11 <sridhar_ram> n_harada: welcome to the team!
16:02:22 <sridhar_ram> #chair s3wong sripriya
16:02:23 <openstack> Current chairs: s3wong sridhar_ram sripriya
16:02:57 <sridhar_ram> I'm in a flaky n/w situation, chairs .. please continue to run the meeting if i disconnect
16:03:03 <lulei> sridhar_ram: you too :)
16:03:07 <sridhar_ram> let's start..
16:03:14 <sridhar_ram> #topic Agenda
16:03:30 <sridhar_ram> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Aug_16th.2C_2016
16:03:41 <sridhar_ram> anything else beyond this?
16:04:08 <sridhar_ram> #topic Annoucements
16:04:49 <sridhar_ram> Tacker Client release deadline is Aug 26th..
16:04:58 <sridhar_ram> .. approaching fast
16:05:11 <sridhar_ram> #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20160826T11&p0=283&msg=Tacker+Client+Release&font=slab
16:05:20 <sridhar_ram> just 10 calendar days left..
16:05:51 <sridhar_ram> no API change can happen after this deadline
16:06:08 <sridhar_ram> next..
16:06:40 <sridhar_ram> as we get close to the openstack release window, expect longer than normal gate jobs wait times..
16:07:16 <sridhar_ram> so, please accordingly.. sometime i've noticed jenkins / dsvm jobs takes 4 - 5 hours :(
16:07:37 <sridhar_ram> here are some tips .. to both handle it and being a good citizen
16:07:53 <sridhar_ram> 1) avoid spurious rechecks ..
16:08:12 <sridhar_ram> .. as much as possible use local "tox" runs to verify before pushing
16:08:50 <sridhar_ram> .. meaning, don't use OpenStack CI resources in-lieu of local tox verifications
16:09:16 <sridhar_ram> next, an heads up..
16:09:19 <sridhar_ram> #info OpenStack Summit Travel support program
16:09:27 <sridhar_ram> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/travel-support/
16:09:39 <sridhar_ram> PTLs (and core-reviewers) have a vote (a strong +3 vote!) in the decision making process...
16:09:44 <santoshk> sridhar_ram, quick tip while running tests locally..
16:09:54 <sridhar_ram> … particularly if they think a contributor’s presence in the design summit will add lot of value to the project.
16:10:07 <sridhar_ram> So, if you’ve applied for barcelona summit travel support program, please PM me.
16:10:14 <sridhar_ram> Thanks saju_m for bringing this to our attention.
16:10:51 <santoshk> increase defaults for number of vms and neutron ports in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf (restart neutron) before running
16:10:52 <sridhar_ram> santoshk: sure, pls share the tip
16:11:13 <sridhar_ram> santoshk: for running tox -e functional ?
16:11:29 <santoshk> sridhar_ram, yes sridhar...as system defaults are less
16:11:40 <sridhar_ram> santoshk: thanks!
16:12:01 <sridhar_ram> any questions on these announcements ?
16:12:26 <sridhar_ram> moving on..
16:12:45 <sridhar_ram> #topic Newton Release Status
16:13:22 <sridhar_ram> Please use the release priority etherpad to prioritize your reviews and patchsets..
16:13:25 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-release-priority
16:13:44 <sridhar_ram> thanks tbh manikanta_tadi for taking things and knocking them off
16:14:43 <sridhar_ram> please consider picking few things off, including reviews...
16:14:54 <sridhar_ram> n_harada: ^^^
16:15:11 <sridhar_ram> does anyone have a blocking newton issue ?
16:15:40 <sridhar_ram> does anyone have a client patchset that needs to go into newton, but lacking reviewers ?
16:16:55 <lulei> sridhar_ram:yes
16:17:08 <sridhar_ram> lulei: which one ?
16:17:14 <diga__> sridhar_ram: VNFFG review is pending from my side, i will review it today.
16:17:27 <lulei> sridhar_ram:I have committed a pacth for bp(tacker openstackclient plugin). Here is the bp links:https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/tacker-openstackclient-plugin.
16:17:29 <sridhar_ram> diga__: thanks, that would help
16:17:29 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram : should we also consider docs patchsets related to client ?
16:18:00 <lulei> sridhar_ram:And here is the pacth:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348124/. Can u review it?
16:18:02 <diga__> sridhar_ram: sure
16:18:04 <sridhar_ram> lulei: is this feature complete ?
16:19:09 <lulei> sridhar_ram: yes, Cause I have started the next working is to map tacker commands to openstack commands, and I think I can finished this bp in Newton version. Thanks:)
16:19:19 <sridhar_ram> lulei: meaning, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348124/ is all required for OSC support ?
16:19:41 <vishwanathj> Client patchset for audit support needs to be added to that list as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349722/
16:19:50 <sridhar_ram> lulei: i doubt we will have time to finish the reviews by next Friday (Aug 26th)
16:20:40 <lulei> sridhar_ram: ok
16:20:59 <sridhar_ram> lulei: okay, getting reviewers time is the problem.. we can try, but no guarantees as we have other higher priority items
16:21:37 <lulei> sridhar_ram: It's OK. Thanks :D
16:21:43 <sridhar_ram> manikanta_tadi: docs patchsets have time, can come in by Sep 15th
16:22:06 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram : Ok thanks, Will prioritize accordingly
16:22:18 <sridhar_ram> vishwanathj: sure, i think multiple reviews had happened, so hopefully we can merge that soon
16:22:46 <sridhar_ram> i looking for a volunteer for https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tackerclient/+bug/1524243
16:22:46 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1524243 in python-tackerclient "infra driver is fixed by python tacker client" [High,New] - Assigned to yong sheng gong (gongysh)
16:22:56 <sridhar_ram> ... any takes? should be a simple one
16:23:21 <diga__> sridhar_ram: I will take it
16:23:43 <sridhar_ram> diga__: great, thanks.. please assign it to yourself
16:23:48 <diga__> ok
16:24:06 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: we decided to remove the infra_driver attribute from the api as well right?
16:24:24 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: yes, thanks for reminding..
16:24:44 <sridhar_ram> diga__: fyi, both infra_driver and mgmt_driver attrs in the CLI and API need to be deprecated..
16:24:55 <diga__> sridhar_ram: okay
16:25:11 <sridhar_ram> diga__: we can use this same bug to do both..
16:25:14 <diga__> is there any dependancy currently at API side ?
16:25:16 <diga__> okay
16:25:44 <sridhar_ram> diga__: no, these are unused / hardcoded values .. carry over from our legacy past..
16:25:59 <diga__> sridhar_ram: okay, got it
16:26:05 <sridhar_ram> diga__: better to deprecate and remove it after stable/newton gets pulled..
16:26:15 <sridhar_ram> *deprecate now
16:26:16 <tbh> sridhar_ram, mgmt_driver too?
16:26:27 <diga__> sridhar_ram: okay
16:26:33 <sridhar_ram> tbh: well, the API portion of mgmt_driver..
16:26:50 <sridhar_ram> tbh: mgmt_driver shd be purely off the TOSCA template and not controlled by the API
16:27:09 <tbh> sridhar_ram, got it
16:27:28 <sridhar_ram> anything else related to newton release ?
16:27:55 <sridhar_ram> #topic VNFC
16:28:00 <sridhar_ram> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339798/
16:28:13 <sridhar_ram> tbh: manikanta_tadi: please jump..
16:28:39 <tbh> sridhar_ram, we have updated the spec providing diff approaches using barbican
16:28:54 <manikanta_tadi> we have two options for the VNFC drivers in mind at the moment
16:29:08 <manikanta_tadi> 1.Heat software deployment and ssh driver
16:30:03 * redrobot pokes head in at the mention of barbican
16:30:15 <manikanta_tadi> for ssh driver, we would like to leverage barbican, by storing keys as the secret payload
16:31:23 <tbh> if the community can review the spec, it will be more helpful
16:31:56 <sridhar_ram> redrobot: fyi, we have an use case to securely execute commands in the workload VMs by an openstack service (tacker)
16:32:43 <sridhar_ram> tbh: manikanta_tadi: here is my guidance, particularly given the timeframe we are in (close to the release window)..
16:33:10 <sridhar_ram> .. which is to pick one of the approaches first and try it..
16:33:25 <sridhar_ram> .. even that would be squeeze for this release
16:34:06 <tbh> sridhar_ram, yes we are following the same procedure, but highlighting the different approaches in the spec..
16:34:33 <sridhar_ram> tbh: is it fair to say, heat SD will be easier to implement ?
16:34:46 <tbh> sridhar_ram, but from the coding point of view we are trying out using second approach from the spec
16:34:57 <sridhar_ram> .. i'm also conscious of making barbican a requirement for tacker..
16:35:22 <tbh> sridhar_ram, heat SD hardly requires changes in the tacker code base, as it is handled by heat translator
16:35:46 <sridhar_ram> tbh: then I'd try to "ship" it first :)
16:35:48 <tbh> sridhar_ram, yes having new requirement is the major concern at this point of time
16:36:51 <tbh> sridhar_ram, sure
16:36:57 <sridhar_ram> there is also effort in docs, samples,etc.. so if this is a "low-hanging" feature that we can get out in newton using Heat SD.. i think we shd just focus on it and do it
16:37:17 <sridhar_ram> again, just to be clear, is there any CLI or API impact ?
16:37:33 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram : there is no impact on CLI
16:37:49 <sridhar_ram> next, is there a TOSCA parser impact ?
16:38:34 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram : no impact on TOSCA parser too
16:38:41 <sridhar_ram> okay..
16:39:31 <sridhar_ram> team - if the scope is reduced to just do Heat SD based VNFC, are you comfortable approving this, this late in the cycle?
16:39:44 <sridhar_ram> cores: sripriya s3wong KanagarajM  -^^^
16:40:45 * sridhar_ram hears crickets
16:41:13 <KanagarajM> i feel ok based on i put we got now
16:41:31 <sridhar_ram> tbh: manikanta_tadi: I'd suggest you to update the spec w/ Heat SD only scope.. do capture barbican as possiblty as a follow on
16:41:37 <KanagarajM> *input
16:41:45 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: thanks for chiming in
16:41:52 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram : yes, sure
16:42:34 <sridhar_ram> manikanta_tadi: thanks
16:42:35 <sridhar_ram> tbh: sounds okay to you ?
16:43:02 <KanagarajM> i believe heat translator already support sd
16:43:12 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: is that okay if the bp is not implemented even if its approved?
16:43:29 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: thats good to know
16:43:45 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: yes, we can carry it over to the next dev cycle (Ocata)
16:43:57 <tbh> sridhar_ram, but we can mention all possible approaches too, right?
16:44:10 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: okay cool
16:44:36 <sridhar_ram> tbh: yes, but for the implementation let's be specific and mention only Heat SD based VNFC will be supported
16:44:43 <tbh> sridhar_ram, yeah sure
16:45:09 <sridhar_ram> many folks, outside openstack, like in OPNFV read our specs..
16:45:11 <sridhar_ram> #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/tacker-specs/
16:45:28 <sridhar_ram> moving on..
16:45:39 <sridhar_ram> sorry, before that.. anything else on VNFC ?
16:46:14 <sridhar_ram> #topic NSD
16:46:16 <tbh> sridhar_ram, that's all from my side, thanks for taking this topic!
16:46:24 <sridhar_ram> tbh: sure
16:47:01 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: are you here ?
16:47:29 <tbh> sridhar_ram, I think he is not around
16:47:58 <sridhar_ram> tbh: just pinged him in the #tacker channel
16:48:26 <sridhar_ram> just to be clear, this feature is clearly post-Newton..
16:48:42 <sridhar_ram> I'm going to mark the BP target as Ocata..
16:48:54 <sridhar_ram> already started doing that for some BPs..
16:49:32 <sridhar_ram> the big architectural question, is whether to start design this with mistral from get go and iterate
16:49:46 <tbh> sridhar_ram, yes as we have changes in client too
16:50:13 <sridhar_ram> tbh: of course, you are the co-author..
16:51:17 <sridhar_ram> team - anyone have a position on this mistral or no-mistral ?
16:51:41 <sridhar_ram> please readup on mistral and provide your inputs in the spec
16:51:57 <sridhar_ram> #link https://review.openstack.org/304667
16:52:02 <diga__> sridhar_ram: will do it
16:52:31 <sridhar_ram> tbh: btw, can you review the tacker-mistral workflows from Shaik ? https://review.openstack.org/341164
16:52:41 <sridhar_ram> diga__: thanks!
16:52:47 <sridhar_ram> anything else on NSD ?
16:52:54 <tbh> sridhar_ram, sure will do
16:53:40 <sridhar_ram> moving on..
16:53:45 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion
16:53:50 <sridhar_ram> anything else?
16:54:30 <sridhar_ram> alright.. then wrap this for today
16:54:37 <sridhar_ram> thanks everyone for attending..
16:54:49 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting