21:01:17 <notmyname> #startmeeting swift
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21:01:28 <notmyname> who's here for the swift team meeting?
21:01:30 <timburke> o/
21:01:32 <kota_> hi
21:01:55 <mattoliverau> o/
21:02:26 <notmyname> welcome
21:02:39 <notmyname> not sure who else will be here. there's a few people I know are out today
21:02:58 <notmyname> today i wanted to talk about the 2.20.0 release
21:03:02 <notmyname> first up, it's done!
21:03:07 <mattoliverau> \o/
21:03:14 <kota_> yey!
21:03:29 <kota_> congrats!
21:03:33 <notmyname> thanks for your work on it
21:03:58 <notmyname> the superuser people asked me to write up a short blog post on it. it's published at http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/a-birds-eye-view-of-swift-2-20-0/
21:04:14 <mattoliverau> nice
21:04:24 <mattoliverau> #link  http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/a-birds-eye-view-of-swift-2-20-0/
21:04:36 <mattoliverau> ^for the people reading meeting minutes later ;)
21:04:40 <notmyname> heh
21:04:49 <notmyname> the 2.19 -> 2.20 gap was pretty large (four months), and there were a lot of good changes
21:05:07 <notmyname> the s3 compatibility stuff definitely unblocks a lot of future s3 compat work.
21:05:21 <notmyname> I know swiftstack will be looking at versioning soon
21:05:33 <kota_> nice
21:05:46 <notmyname> timburke: kota_: mattoliverau: any comments about the release? anythign that went well or poorly?
21:05:52 <timburke> and i can finally switch people from using (my hacked up) swift3!
21:06:06 <notmyname> +1
21:06:12 <mattoliverau> ^ I was just about to ask timburke if it was enough for that.
21:06:13 <kota_> +1
21:06:21 <mattoliverau> so great!
21:07:03 <notmyname> I have a slight preference for not waiting 4 months until the next release, but I don't feel like we missed any opportunities by not releasing earlier
21:07:23 <notmyname> as a reminder, here's the openstack stein schedule:
21:07:25 <notmyname> #link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html
21:07:52 <notmyname> the important thing is the april deadline for a release
21:08:09 <notmyname> I don't know if we'll have one before then or not, but we definitely will have a release that week (or slightly before)
21:08:41 <timburke> yeah, given the final release deadline of Apr 1-5, we'd better not wait four months for the next one ;-)
21:08:51 <mattoliverau> kk,  and maybe a swift client release around march would be good too, if I read that right
21:09:04 <notmyname> mattoliverau: oh. right. swiftclient.
21:09:05 <timburke> +1
21:09:13 <mattoliverau> well that's when they want to freeze
21:09:16 <notmyname> :-)
21:09:27 <notmyname> oh, right. I want to also tag some stable releases as well
21:09:31 <timburke> Mar 4-8: Final release for client libraries
21:09:39 <notmyname> we've got some backports to land
21:09:48 <notmyname> and by "we" I know it means me ;-)
21:10:02 <notmyname> but any +1s there makes it easier for me to quickly land them
21:10:05 <mattoliverau> lol
21:10:35 <timburke> you know notmyname, you *can* delegate authority ;-)
21:10:48 <mattoliverau> I used to run some stable saio intances, maybe I should do that thing again. it made testing backports easier
21:10:49 <notmyname> timburke: in this case, I'm not actually sure if I can. perhaps
21:11:07 <notmyname> mattoliverau: we've got the experimental jobs that look good
21:11:11 <mattoliverau> need to talk to stable team
21:11:15 <notmyname> TBH, I probably won't look at them until january. I'm only in the office today and tomorrow, then I'll be off until jan 2
21:11:34 <mattoliverau> oh yeah, btw timburke awesome work on testing jobs and awesomeness.
21:11:53 <notmyname> I don't think our stable branch policy and reviews is something that needs a lot of changes right now
21:12:16 <notmyname> yeah, the new zuul tests are great and made me a lot more confident in this release
21:12:17 <timburke> eh? oh, the busted jobs...?
21:12:25 <notmyname> not any more!
21:12:47 <timburke> tdasilva is the one to thank for the rolling upgrade, though :-) make me feel much better
21:13:06 <kota_> +1
21:13:17 <notmyname> looking ahead, py3 is a looming thing. zaitcev is working hard on it. canonical stopped by to ask for it. mattoliverau needs it for suse
21:13:47 <timburke> account server should be good! hopefully
21:13:56 <notmyname> the "real" deadline is basically 12 months from now. the openstack deadline is the end of the T release. however, all the distros are cutting some sort of LTS before then, so that's what they're tracking
21:14:07 <timburke> 🤞
21:14:10 <mattoliverau> yeah, I saw this morning that landed.     nice
21:14:11 <notmyname> yeah
21:14:49 <timburke> how hopeful are we that we can do it by stein?
21:15:00 <timburke> how much will it hurt if we don't?
21:15:30 <notmyname> timburke: I think if we don't, swift may not be included in "openstack" by some distros
21:15:50 <timburke> might be the sort of questions for which it'd be nice to have zaitcev :-)
21:16:02 <timburke> good point. gotta hurt a bit
21:16:34 <mattoliverau> tbh the whole latin-1/ascii for wsgi and utf8 encoded breaks my head. Oh zaitcev responded in the patch.. I shall read it and hopfully some balls will drop.
21:17:12 <timburke> it's icky, and unfortunate. i can talk after the meeting about it if you want
21:18:10 <notmyname> I think I've said everythign that I was wanting to say about the release and what's likely coming in january
21:18:16 <notmyname> kota_: mattoliverau: timburke:  anything else to bring up or to add?
21:18:39 <notmyname> kota_: you and tdasilva and rledisez will be at FOSDEM next month. I hope you all have a great time
21:18:50 <mattoliverau> timburke: sure, though I'll probably forget over the Christmas holidays :P I'll read what zaitcev    wrote and then get back to you. maybe in the new year :P last week for me too.
21:18:52 <notmyname> mattoliverau and I will be at LCA at about the same time
21:19:12 <timburke> dunno if anyone else has seen IOErrors popping out of eventlet, but i wrote up https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/pull/532 to fix some i saw
21:19:17 <kota_> notmyname: I'm planning it. I'm looking forward to making it :)
21:19:54 <mattoliverau> timburke: you should come to LCA ;) then we can have 3 at each!
21:20:10 <kota_> lol
21:20:20 <timburke> might be a little late to buy travel ;-)
21:21:11 <notmyname> anything else from anyone?
21:21:40 <notmyname> all right, then
21:21:46 <notmyname> reminder that there is no meeting next week
21:22:21 <notmyname> next meeting is jan 2, and I expect us to pretty much just talk about this same stuff, to remind ourselves what we forgot :-)
21:22:32 <kota_> have a good christmas week and a new year!
21:22:59 <notmyname> thanks. and same to everyone else :-)
21:23:04 <notmyname> thanks for your work on swift
21:23:14 <notmyname> #endmeeting