18:59:57 #startmeeting storyboard 18:59:58 Meeting started Wed Dec 20 18:59:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' 19:00:10 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda 19:00:25 Hello :) 19:00:27 #topic In Progress Work 19:00:32 hey diablo_rojo :) 19:01:54 so since the last meeting I started working on a patch to implement the ability to link to a partially-filled new story form 19:02:12 o/ my clock is 2 min behind =D 19:02:14 with support for forcing the created story to be private too 19:02:18 :D welcome 19:02:30 thank you! I have an enormous review backlog now 19:02:33 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526219/ 19:02:39 that is the current WIP 19:02:44 * fungi is late 19:02:44 SotK, awesome! Will check it out. 19:03:17 it doesn't actually work fully yet, I've not had much chance to improve it since last week 19:03:30 * SotK suddenly remembered that christmas is a thing that needs preparation 19:03:49 i got to thinking about the implementation there, and i feel like it's not only a big piece of the vmt and docs need, but also goes a long way towards the more general bug reporting solution i've been hearing everyone say they want 19:04:44 yeah, I'm hopeful it will be helpful for that 19:05:08 since it'll allow people to create links with project-specific "bug templates" for example 19:05:44 \o/ 19:05:57 \o/ 19:06:20 if nothing else, i think some careful application of custom reporting urls solves the "i want to report a bug, not a story" confusion 19:06:30 yes 19:06:47 or even 'I want to make a bug' :D 19:06:49 though i really liked in the infra meeting yesterday when jeblair said (paraphrasing because i don't feel like looking it back up) "a bug is just a sad story" 19:07:09 or maybe that was in the zuul meeting 19:07:23 * fungi has pre-holiday brain fog 19:07:37 I think that was infra: I think it's true, but helping folk understand that by providing custom forms is likely to be a good thng. 19:07:47 I only realised today that I'd lost my connection to #openstack-meeting 19:07:50 I thought it was quiet 19:08:20 Agreed. Comically difficult for people to understand that bugs and new features are both just code changes. 19:08:44 * fungi has been trying to refer to storyboard as "defect and task tracking" 19:09:40 Perhaps more consumable than "a tool for communicating desire and intent" 19:10:11 while most people ultimately need a task tracking system, they're operating under the assumption that what they want is a defect tracking system 19:10:17 https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about has our current blurb fwiw 19:10:30 it mentions bugs as a subset of stories 19:10:34 well, bug reports 19:10:54 oh, thanks! i'd forgotten that existed. i'll try to remember to link it more often 19:11:12 it should be the page that comes up by default when someone navigates to sb but isn't logged in iirc 19:11:19 it is :) 19:11:22 so that new users know what is 19:11:45 excellent. i just never see it because i'm always following deeper links into teh webclient 19:12:50 yeah, I had to dig to remember what it said on there, but it looks like it's up to date :) 19:14:31 in terms of other things we have on the go, there is the patch I sent to switch to a markdown renderer that is actually maintained 19:14:34 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518625/ 19:14:42 it'd be good to get that merged in some form 19:15:31 * diablo_rojo puts reviews on my list today 19:15:45 * diablo_rojo puts reviews on her list today 19:16:06 diablo_rojo: looks like you already +1'd that one 19:16:46 diablo_rojo has reviewed all of my patches that are ready for review I think 19:16:49 thanks btw :) 19:16:49 +2, looks like a pretty simple change 19:17:18 also note that mordred has pushed up a largeish (i think, haven't looked yet) webclient patch to switch up the framework a bit 19:17:41 yeah, I'm looking forward to trying that out 19:17:54 #link https://review.openstack.org/528436 19:18:00 it'll be good to get our tooling up to date, thanks mordred 19:18:14 maybe he'll reciprocate with some reviewing other webclient changes 19:18:41 Oh sweet. Then I am actually kind of on top of things. 19:20:40 have there been any developments in the launchpad migration since last meeting? 19:21:08 (thanks for the links. I'm the one slowing down reviews atm I think.) 19:21:21 (have had holidays and things, am around more now) 19:21:46 i haven't migrated anyone new, not sure what updates diablo_rojo has on discussions to that effect for upcoming candidates 19:22:13 Zara: whilst you're looking, there is also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307712/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510669/ of mine that are waiting on reviews :) 19:22:50 yeahhhh 19:23:01 tonight with any luck 19:23:22 maybe won't get to everything but do want that markdown parser change in asap 19:26:27 fungi, SotK: oh - there will be more to come - that one is just the beginning ... I figure starting small is best :) 19:26:37 excellent :D 19:26:43 it'll be nice to modernize, thanks again mordred! 19:26:46 mordred: 5K lines is small? 19:27:27 persia: in this case - yes 19:27:49 at least most of that is generated code 19:28:02 yay javascript 19:28:11 persia: (the yarn.lock is an auto-generated file - package.json is where the important bits are) 19:28:20 Nearly all of it: the actual patch is mostly deleting stuff that shouldn't be used anymore, with a couple minor adjustments in pathnames as a result. 19:29:21 yah. I now noticed you left a review comment/question - I should go respond to that ... but tl;dr - yes, for applications such as storyboard-webclient the lock file is recommended to be committed 19:30:17 perhaps I should rebase it on top of the marked patch? 19:31:13 that would be ideal, thanks 19:31:28 Depends on the review order: the marked patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518625/ 19:35:23 anything else in progress? 19:36:25 #topic Discussion 19:36:49 if there is anything else folk want to discuss, go ahead 19:36:57 otherwise I will end the meeting in a few minutes 19:37:09 * fungi has nothing else 19:39:24 * Zara has nothing, I just need to get on with reviews :) 19:40:18 well then, thanks for coming everyone! 19:40:21 #endmeeting