19:00:29 <zara_the_lemur__> #startmeeting storyboard
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19:00:37 <zara_the_lemur__> #topic Announcements
19:00:38 <fungi> i was hoping for actual pizza
19:00:44 <zara_the_lemur__> sorry :(
19:00:49 <zara_the_lemur__> I have one over here in the uk
19:00:51 <zara_the_lemur__> if that's any consolation
19:00:57 <zara_the_lemur__> there are no announcements
19:00:59 <fungi> fax me a slice
19:00:59 <SotK> I have pasta, which is nearly as good
19:01:11 <diablo_rojo> Hello :)
19:01:17 <zara_the_lemur__> except for the announcement that there is no pizza in this meeting but might be some obtainable outside of it
19:01:26 <zara_the_lemur__> #topic Urgent Items
19:01:32 <zara_the_lemur__> Anybody got an urgent item?
19:01:55 <diablo_rojo> Nope
19:01:59 <fungi> seems like no
19:02:01 * zara_the_lemur__ will move on to in-progress then
19:02:09 <zara_the_lemur__> #topic In-Progress Work
19:02:24 <zara_the_lemur__> Okay I am aware there is a tonnne of stuff in review I have been sorely neglecting
19:02:34 <zara_the_lemur__> I have this evening marked out as 'task-tracking software evening'
19:02:59 <zara_the_lemur__> so tonight's gonna be a good night
19:03:19 <diablo_rojo> Nice.
19:03:27 <fungi> you're going to need that pizza
19:03:30 <zara_the_lemur__> yeahhh
19:03:52 <zara_the_lemur__> I want to get those boards-speedups patches in
19:04:01 <zara_the_lemur__> and am acutely conscious I've been saying that for way too long
19:04:26 <zara_the_lemur__> I did look at the lp branching patch last week and left a coupla comments; idk if anybody else has had time to look at that
19:05:02 * SotK will look at that tonight
19:05:11 <zara_the_lemur__> and we got a partial fix to the 400 of doom in over the last few weeks, that I forgot to make a fuss of; thanks SotK!
19:05:44 <fungi> yes! i haven't seen it hit me for a few weeks now, thanks a bunch!
19:06:00 <zara_the_lemur__> yay, I was about to ask if you'd seen fewer questions about that one!
19:06:38 <fungi> well, in particular the triggered refresh it seems to perform hasn't caused me any surprise (i almost don't even notice)
19:06:52 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, people will still get logged out, but that's something a lot of sites do, I think
19:06:58 <zara_the_lemur__> so hopefully it'll scare people less
19:07:08 <fungi> right, perfectly acceptable as far as i'm concerned
19:07:43 <zara_the_lemur__> thanks again SotK for sorting that
19:07:49 <SotK> yw :)
19:08:04 <fungi> awesome work
19:08:10 <zara_the_lemur__> :) all my 'in progress' atm is review; anyone else have anything they would like to draw attention to?
19:08:10 <diablo_rojo> Indeed! Much appreciated
19:08:20 <SotK> its very satisfying being able to click a link to storyboard and not have to re-click immediately after
19:08:37 <SotK> I think I have nothing else
19:08:40 * diablo_rojo thinks hers has been reviewed but hasnt gotten around to updating again..
19:08:48 <fungi> nothing on my end
19:09:00 <fungi> the imports last week (that was last week, right?) seemed to go fine
19:09:13 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, last week
19:09:34 <zara_the_lemur__> though I feel like I have no sense of time at the moment
19:09:53 <fungi> diablo_rojo: we did get a followup question from one of the recent migrations... "what should i do on lp after migrating" is something we likely need to cover in our migration documentation
19:10:12 <zara_the_lemur__> I'm glad they went fine :)
19:10:40 <zara_the_lemur__> we did see somebody in #storyboard asking what they should do if they later wanted to make a cross-project story with a project that hadn't migrated yet
19:10:48 <fungi> with general suggestions about how to close down the ability to open new lp bugs, updating project description on lp with a direct link to the new tracker, updating your readme or contributing files with similar changes, et cetera
19:10:48 <zara_the_lemur__> (well specifically, they were wondering if sb supported that)
19:11:11 <diablo_rojo> fungi, yeah I saw that, I will need to start mentioning that too when I reach out/coordinate dates
19:11:13 <zara_the_lemur__> (which it doesn't, and I don't know how it would)
19:11:31 <fungi> on that one i would say sb "supports" it insofar as you can stick hyperlinks in comments of the story and the lp bug report pointing at one another
19:11:45 <zara_the_lemur__> that's true
19:11:55 <fungi> really more of a workaround, but whatever
19:12:07 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, I'm vaguely wondering if there could be a nicer ui for that, but I also don't know who would do it
19:12:08 <diablo_rojo> LP is FULL of workarounds
19:12:13 <diablo_rojo> so they should be used to that
19:12:21 <fungi> the solution is to get the rest of the teams to migrate as far as i'm concerned
19:12:25 <zara_the_lemur__> indeed
19:12:32 <diablo_rojo> fungi, +1
19:12:38 <SotK> +1
19:12:49 <diablo_rojo> I reached out to TripleO, Tacker, and Octavia last week and havent heard back yet
19:12:58 <zara_the_lemur__> ace, thank you
19:13:02 <fungi> eventually, down the road, it could make sense for stories to have a bucket for external references where you could link to other bug trackers
19:13:17 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, I've always wanted that
19:13:29 <zara_the_lemur__> (and of course the converse, for when every other tracker is like 'WE NEED TO SUPPORT STORYBOARD')
19:13:46 <zara_the_lemur__> (I have big dreams =D)
19:13:59 <fungi> some trackers (including lp) have some limited ability to even track statuses of bugs reported in external trackers, though more useful there since their primary use case was tracking bugs in ubuntu which often needed to depend on upstream reports in various other software off-lp
19:14:26 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah
19:14:29 <zara_the_lemur__> also I think I tested Octavia but not the others there, idk if anybody else has
19:14:54 <fungi> if sb implemented something like that at some point, i wouldn't object but i really don't think it's a necessity for our use case
19:15:31 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, it's on my 'nice to have' pile because we've been asked a few times 'is it possible to import bugs from $otherthing'?
19:15:56 <zara_the_lemur__> and generally importing is more complex than just watching some statuses or similar
19:16:17 <fungi> what people mostly want in that case is not so much importing as reflecting
19:16:22 <zara_the_lemur__> yep
19:17:21 <zara_the_lemur__> though I suppose once they're reflected in one way, there'd be a 'can we put them in a board' etc
19:17:50 <fungi> right, like "shadow" stories or tasks
19:18:28 <zara_the_lemur__> yeah, I think after some point the import script would start to look like the simpler option for those
19:18:37 <zara_the_lemur__> but I'm just guessing really
19:19:11 <fungi> it does certainly stretch the current data model a lot oterwise
19:19:19 <fungi> otherwise
19:19:56 <zara_the_lemur__> *nod*
19:20:35 <zara_the_lemur__> #topic Open Discussion
19:20:42 <zara_the_lemur__> we were already openly discussing
19:20:47 <zara_the_lemur__> so I have updated the log
19:20:55 * SotK certainly thinks that migration scripts would be an easier solution for such use cases
19:22:01 <zara_the_lemur__> I don't think I have any discussion topics of my own this week
19:22:26 <zara_the_lemur__> anybody else?
19:22:32 * SotK doesn't
19:22:39 <diablo_rojo> Nope. Just need to dig in,
19:23:16 <zara_the_lemur__> in that case, I propose we end the meeting so I can get round to faxing fungi that slice of pizza
19:23:44 <diablo_rojo> Fax me one too please :)
19:23:51 <zara_the_lemur__> sure!
19:23:56 <zara_the_lemur__> step 1) locate a fax machine
19:24:00 <zara_the_lemur__> step 2) learn how to use it
19:24:04 <fungi> i'll be listening for the fax noises
19:24:10 <zara_the_lemur__> step 3) work out the whole 'it's a pizza' thing
19:24:19 * fungi is sure he has a fax lying around here somewhere still
19:24:40 <zara_the_lemur__> ooh
19:25:13 <fungi> duct tape a scanner, printer and modem together. instant fax machine
19:25:19 <zara_the_lemur__> http://24.media.tumblr.com/7617172e353ff43f644ca142e5c58984/tumblr_mxewn5OXVt1s3yr8vo1_500.png
19:25:33 <zara_the_lemur__> photo of the pizza and definitely not a random picture I just found on the internet
19:25:53 <fungi> it's a long-standing (though perhaps long-forgotten?) techie joke
19:26:03 <zara_the_lemur__> :D
19:26:35 * zara_the_lemur__ will end the meeting now
19:26:36 <zara_the_lemur__> #endmeeting