21:01:23 <tonyb> #startmeeting stable
21:01:24 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Feb 13 21:01:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:01:38 <tonyb> #topic rollcall ..... who's here?
21:02:37 <tonyb> sigmavirus, ihrachys_: ?
21:02:43 <sigmavirus> o/
21:02:48 <ihrachys_> o/
21:03:15 <tonyb> I haven't made a agenda but there are 3 things to talk about today
21:03:46 <tonyb> 1) PTG, 2) Phase shifting in April and 3) EOLing liberty
21:04:13 <tonyb> #topic EOLing liberty
21:04:46 <tonyb> It looks like I've let this drag on too long .... the repos still to be EOL'd are at https://gist.github.com/tbreeds/93cd346c37aa46269456f56649f0a4ac#file-liberty_eol_data-txt
21:05:07 <tonyb> that'll leave requirements, devstack and devstack-gate to do last.
21:05:33 <tonyb> I did a quick scan of os-dev and it looks like I droppped the ball :(  I'll follow-up once the kids are at school
21:05:42 <sigmavirus> :thumbsup:
21:05:57 <tonyb> sigmavirus: slacker :D
21:06:25 <tonyb> There is a small wart with group-based-policy (https://gist.github.com/tbreeds/93cd346c37aa46269456f56649f0a4ac#file-liberty_eol_data-txt-L160)
21:06:28 <sigmavirus> I admit it, I use slackware ;)
21:06:48 <tonyb> once we EOL requirements, devstack and devstack-gate they wont have a liberty gate, so I need to close that gap
21:06:56 <tonyb> sigmavirus: :)
21:06:58 <ihrachys_> gbp was always 'special'
21:07:28 <tonyb> ihrachys_: Yeah.  I think it's 90% not really understand what the gate is doing but I'll help them work through that
21:07:58 <tonyb> once we have removed all the liberty branches I can start on the < liberty branches haning around
21:08:14 <tonyb> IMO there is no need for any of them but PTLs may disagree
21:08:37 <tonyb> several PTLs have asked to get the branches removed so thats good :)
21:09:07 <tonyb> thoughts?
21:09:55 * sigmavirus isn't familiar with group-based-policy and thus has no thoughts, frankly
21:10:05 * ihrachys_ cheers
21:10:10 <ihrachys> go tonyb
21:10:12 <ihrachys> :)
21:10:19 <tonyb> LOL
21:10:56 <tonyb> #topic Phase shifting in April
21:12:01 <tonyb> I may have the date a little wrong but I think that's aboput 6montsh after we released newton.  At that point we want to do the Phase I -> Phase II shift and *try* to get releases made for important stuff at about that time
21:12:27 <tonyb> asside from emailign all the PTLs saying basically that does anyone have any great ideas on how to do that better?
21:12:58 <tonyb> I did consider genrateing and uploading a bunch of changes to openstack/releases but I think that punished the releases managers for no good outcome
21:13:03 <ihrachys> yeah, encourage releasing on the phase boundary
21:13:15 <ihrachys> and leave them to follow the process
21:13:20 <tonyb> .... I s'pose I could genrate the yaml and email that to the PTLs to help them do it quickly ?
21:13:21 <sigmavirus> I agree
21:13:54 <ihrachys> tonyb: I don't think there should be a problem generating a new release; if there is, they have a general problem releasing a thing :)
21:14:17 * tonyb should re-generate his "Add CPLs to governance' chnage to make that easier to find and update ...
21:14:17 <sigmavirus> ihrachys: yeah, the gate is never unstable ;)
21:14:29 <sigmavirus> tonyb: I'm pretty sure there's a wiki somewhere
21:14:30 <tonyb> ihrachys: true.
21:14:44 <ihrachys> sigmavirus: I mean, tools wise; I don't say gate is pretty
21:14:51 <sigmavirus> ah, got it
21:14:52 <ihrachys> generate a patch is easy
21:14:55 <sigmavirus> absolutey
21:14:59 <sigmavirus> *absolutely
21:14:59 <tonyb> sigmavirus: It is but it's a little awkward to get at for a script .. not impossible just awkward
21:15:06 <sigmavirus> tonyb: I tease
21:15:15 <ihrachys> tonyb: CPLs?
21:15:21 <tonyb> sigmavirus: news at 11 ;P
21:15:40 <tonyb> ihrachys: Cross Project Liasons
21:15:51 <ihrachys> ack
21:16:33 <sigmavirus> I think you're missing an i
21:16:39 <tonyb> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336395/
21:17:09 <tonyb> sigmavirus: quite probably that word and constraints I always mess up
21:17:30 <tonyb> sigmavirus: which makes working on requirements and excercise in self irritation ;P
21:17:41 <sigmavirus> :D
21:18:20 <tonyb> #topic PTG
21:18:27 * sigmavirus has to let the assessor in
21:18:32 <tonyb> So I know that sigmavirus wont be there .. ihrachys will you?
21:18:37 <ihrachys> I will
21:18:52 <ihrachys> I haven't checked sched though
21:18:55 <tonyb> \o/
21:18:58 <tonyb> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgt-stable-requirements-ptg-pike
21:19:17 <tonyb> we notionally have Monday Morning in the release/stable/requirements room
21:19:37 <tonyb> BUT we don't really have a lot to talk about ... well nothing formal
21:20:04 <tonyb> so Ideas welcome otherwise we can do a tols hackfest / general chat about what we can do differently
21:21:07 <ihrachys> warning: I may ramble about proactive backports during sessions; if I do, call medics.
21:21:19 <tonyb> ihrachys: :)
21:22:11 * tonyb almost wanted an afternoon session so it could happen in a bar but that's probably counter productive :/
21:22:41 <tonyb> Also I get in at 2000 on Sunday so I may not be at my best on Monday morning
21:23:06 * ihrachys arrives in the evening too
21:23:18 <ihrachys> though I am not that far now, time zone wise, so I hope to be fresh
21:23:25 <tonyb> :)
21:23:33 <tonyb> ihrachys: how long in transit?
21:23:37 <ihrachys> 5h
21:23:41 <ihrachys> not bad
21:23:54 <tonyb> ihrachys: Oh wow yeah that's pretty good actually
21:24:27 <ihrachys> yeah. I was happy to move, till I heard next summits are planned to outside US :-o
21:24:34 <tonyb> sigmavirus: I saw a thread abotu remote participation but it kinda fizzled so I'm not counting on that :(
21:24:45 <tonyb> ihrachys: :)
21:25:14 <tonyb> The Sudney summit is only a 3hr *drive* \o/
21:25:21 <tonyb> *Sydney*
21:25:32 <tonyb> that's my kiwi accent showing
21:25:35 <ihrachys> haha, that's probably a once in a lifetime for you ;)
21:25:43 * tonyb expects the Sydney event to be pretty small
21:25:50 <tonyb> ihrachys: Yup.
21:26:37 <tonyb> So add ideas to that etherpad we can filter on the day or abort if there isn'y anything helpful
21:26:46 <tonyb> #topic open discussion
21:26:55 <tonyb> Anyone?
21:26:59 <ihrachys> nah
21:29:09 <tonyb> okay I'll end this thing and get the kids to school
21:29:13 <tonyb> Thanks all!
21:29:16 <tonyb> #endmeeting