21:02:31 <tonyb> #startmeeting stable
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21:02:35 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'stable'
21:02:55 <tonyb> Anyone for the first stable meeting of 2017?
21:08:02 <clarkb> tonyb: I'm floating around on IRC, does that count?
21:08:37 <tonyb> clarkb: Sure
21:09:13 <tonyb> clarkb: bonus points if you have a topic for the stable team ... other than EOL'ing liberty
21:09:33 <clarkb> I don't really
21:10:38 <tonyb> clarkb: with your infra core team hat on ...
21:11:24 <tonyb> when we EOL devstack/requirements etc any unit tests with u-c support will be broken and any dsvm jobs will fallback to testing master
21:11:44 <tonyb> clarkb: would that earn me negative brownie points?
21:12:59 <clarkb> that will only affect projects taht are "integrated" but somehow wanting to keep the old branch alive right? I don't think its an issue
21:13:02 <tonyb> clarkb: My challenge (and the reason I haven't yet EOL'd kilo in devstack/requirement) is some projects still want kilo branches but have testing that requires $stuff and I don't want to ruin that gate / create a "we don't really know what we're testing situation"
21:13:35 <tonyb> clarkb: okay, the main project that wants it is group-based-policy
21:13:46 <tonyb> so not an integrated project
21:14:08 <clarkb> from infras perspective we have already cleaned out stuff like dsvm jobs that only run against old branches
21:14:17 <clarkb> because they aren't expected to work due to devstack doing 'sorry'
21:15:01 <tonyb> clarkb: okay.
21:15:39 <tonyb> clarkb: when I warm up for the year I'll check what that means for GBP ... 10 days AFK is good but takes a long time to page stuff back in ;P
21:15:56 <clarkb> I think if projects want to have that then they need to step up to do the work to extend the time frame releases are supported for
21:16:07 <clarkb> and you probably know better than anyone how much effort is required
21:16:34 <tonyb> :)
21:17:23 <tonyb> well unit tests are easy it's just a local commit to s,?h=stable/liberty,?h=liberty-eol,
21:17:36 <tonyb> but dsvm etc are as you say lots of effort
21:21:31 <tonyb> clarkb: Thanks for you thoughts.  I have enough data to progress now.w
21:24:33 <tonyb> I think that's probably all we'll have for today ... I'll be in $all-the-channels if somethign comes up
21:24:37 <tonyb> #endmeeting