21:00:09 #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting 21:00:10 Meeting started Tue Sep 22 21:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:15 The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' 21:00:26 #topic Roll Call 21:00:28 Devdatta Kulkarni 21:00:28 james li 21:00:32 o/ 21:00:34 ed cranford 21:00:46 our agenda for today: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-09-22_2100_UTC 21:00:52 hi james_li, muralia, datsun180b 21:01:00 Hi devkulkarni 21:01:06 hey 21:01:09 Adrian Otto 21:01:13 hi adrian_otto 21:01:17 hello 21:01:22 good to see you all :) 21:01:44 #topic Announcements 21:01:55 I don't have any prepared announcement 21:02:10 Anyone from the team would like to has anything to share? 21:02:28 I will be working to transition PTL duties to Devdatta for the M release cycle. 21:02:49 nice 21:02:55 I asked him to chair this meeting as part of that effort. He has already been setting the agendas, so this makes sense to start now. 21:02:57 adrian_otto: I will reach out to you to understand what all things need to be addressed 21:03:11 devkulkarni: cool 21:03:21 adrian_otto: the setup that we have in place is great 21:03:29 I will mostly follow the template that we have 21:04:01 ok, moving on to the next topic 21:04:04 #topic Review Action Items 21:04:19 we did not have any action items from last time (or a few meetings before that) 21:04:55 #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion 21:05:09 (devkulkarni): Porting trigger resource to apps 21:05:14 so an update on this.. 21:05:33 I have now started porting/migrating our trigger functionality to apps 21:05:47 looking for reviews on: 21:05:50 that makes sense 21:05:59 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224918/ 21:06:09 and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226081/1 21:06:21 first one is the api patch (actually a series of patches) 21:06:25 second one is the cli patch 21:06:47 whenever you get a chance, please take a look at both 21:07:13 if possible, I am looking to getting these merged in next couple of days 21:07:19 what is this? 21:07:19 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224918/3/functionaltests/api/common/__init__.py 21:07:28 oh 21:07:30 I removed it 21:07:33 in the following patch 21:07:41 check patch set 3 21:08:06 oh may be not 21:08:07 that is in patchset 3 21:08:08 I will remove it 21:08:12 ok 21:08:35 it got created by Pycharm 21:09:13 sorry, I have to leave early (call from school nurse's office. I have to take one of my children home) 21:09:29 sounds good adrian_otto 21:09:34 will see you later 21:09:46 the second one for review/discussion is this: 21:09:49 (devkulkarni): Moving logs resource from assembly to workflow 21:09:57 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498147 21:09:58 Launchpad bug 1498147 in Solum "add-logs-to-workflow-resource" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) 21:10:04 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1498181 21:10:05 Launchpad bug 1498181 in python-solumclient "connect-app-logs-to-use-workflow-instead-of-assembly" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) 21:10:26 datsun180b, james_li: could you take a moment to look at those bug descriptions 21:10:33 vijendar: ping 21:10:43 devkulkarni: I am going to start working on that 21:10:46 vijendar has volunteered to take those bugs 21:10:54 that will be awesome vijendar 21:10:56 Likely due to the the more strict cli parsing I imagie 21:11:07 oh wrong bug 21:11:31 datsun180b: oh yeah 21:11:35 I will come to those in a bit 21:11:48 right now discussing logs related bugs 21:12:00 sorry, still getting used to different copypaste shortcuts 21:12:12 datsun180b: not a mac? 21:12:49 not anymore, no 21:13:51 datsun180b: does the bug description for the logs api make sense? 21:15:16 sure, makes sense 21:15:41 cool.. datsun180b one of the things that we need to keep in mind is the id vs uuid change 21:15:52 the userlog table is weakly bound to assemblies anyway, changing the column name should be the hardest part of that change 21:16:03 the loggers are written with the assumption that the 'resource' has a uuid 21:16:06 datsun180b: sure 21:17:07 james_li, muralia: what do you guys think? does the bug description captures enough details for vijendar to tackle it? 21:17:17 link? 21:17:29 james_li: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498147 21:17:31 Launchpad bug 1498147 in Solum "add-logs-to-workflow-resource" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) 21:18:19 yes, i think there enough detail 21:18:31 muralia: cool 21:18:46 looks ok 21:18:51 awesome 21:19:08 devkulkarni muralia james_li will ping you guys if I need any help 21:19:14 vijendar: +1 21:19:16 sure 21:19:32 ok, moving on to the next one 21:19:47 (devkulkarni): Looking for volunteers for some bugs 21:20:15 in last couple of days I was doing bugs cleanup 21:20:20 in our launchpad 21:20:38 I have also added few new bugs which I encountered recently 21:20:48 I am thinking that going forward 21:21:04 I will make it a point to bring these bugs in our meetings 21:21:16 to discuss and design solutions for 21:21:27 today I have these three: 21:21:36 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1498209 21:21:38 Launchpad bug 1498209 in python-solumclient "created-at-in-solum-app-list" [Medium,New] 21:21:47 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1424836 21:21:48 Launchpad bug 1424836 in python-solumclient "Typo in language pack creation" [Undecided,New] 21:21:57 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498056 21:21:57 Launchpad bug 1498056 in Solum "Fix oslo imports in solum-infra-guest-agent" [Low,New] 21:22:25 we don't need solum-infra-guest-agent repo do we? 21:22:26 please check out the bugs 21:22:35 james_li: good question 21:22:47 so numergy folks had added it 21:22:58 yeah and it is not complete 21:23:05 when we were thinking of creating a infra nodes for building dus 21:23:05 yes 21:23:14 the problem is, there is one patch on it which is failing 21:23:35 it was brought to our attention by someone from the infra team 21:23:52 i think in the context of creating liberty release 21:24:07 so the bug is just to fix the failing gate issue 21:24:21 I think datsun180b has identified it already on that patch 21:24:45 if we fix it this time, will we see other failures later on? 21:25:01 james_li: most likely not 21:25:09 as this one time is for the oslo change 21:25:24 if nothing gets added to that repo then ideally it should not fail 21:25:29 but we never know 21:25:38 I understand your concern about maintaining it 21:25:43 just don't want it to distract people 21:25:49 james_li: good point 21:26:20 I thought about it when we were migrating the repos from stackforge to openstack 21:26:52 at that time my thinking was, if in the future if we do decide to implement a build farm, then having this around might be good starting point 21:27:14 so this bug is not blocker for us 21:27:35 I don't think it was a blocker for the infra team either 21:27:40 it was just that 21:27:47 if we find a good isolation approach we can just build on worker hosts just fine 21:28:14 james_li: agreed. we need to land your patches which will give us that isolation 21:28:50 james_li, datsun180b, muralia, vijendar: thoughts on other two bugs? 21:29:33 think the solum client bugs make sense 21:30:45 both seem straight forward 21:31:19 ok, if anyone of you have some b/w (which probably you don't), it would be awesome if you can take one of those 21:31:28 i don't at present have an environment to work even straightforward client bugs 21:31:37 datsun180b: oh! 21:31:49 datsun180b: vagrant setup not working for you? 21:32:20 it's a matter of having hardware on hand 21:32:52 datsun180b: hmm.. not enough memory I suppose on your machine 21:33:04 * adrian_otto back 21:33:07 datsun180b: your cell phone is a hardware 21:33:07 the only machine i have that could do it has 2 gigs of ram 21:33:16 adrian_otto: nice to see you back 21:34:03 datsun180b: I see. Yeah, that is not sufficient for our vagrant setup. although I have never tried it with less than 4 G 21:34:12 james_li: :D 21:34:22 i used to give it 10 gigs 21:34:34 datsun180b: yes, that's what I do 21:35:45 datsun180b: no worries. if you get around to taking up one of those cli bugs that would be nice. 21:35:57 but I understand that you all are pretty busy 21:36:19 just want to see you all involved :) 21:36:37 ok, moving on to next topic 21:36:43 #topic Open Discussion 21:36:54 I have two for this. I am going to take the second one first. 21:37:01 (devkulkarni): Changing meeting time to Tuesday mornings 21:37:07 So let me give some background on this 21:37:24 Our meeting time conflicts with the cross-project meeting 21:37:37 which is happening right now in openstack-meeting channel 21:38:10 I would like to ocassionally attend that meeting to keep up with any cross-project discussions/decisions etc. 21:38:27 second is that, recently noorul seems to be back 21:38:36 he has been reviewing some of our recent patches 21:38:46 he will sign on for those two client bugs :) 21:38:57 james_li: ha ha. yes. good point 21:39:03 I can check with him 21:39:11 so, going back 21:39:17 I am +1 on changing our time 21:39:25 im good with that too 21:39:34 cool 21:39:48 datsun180b, adrian_otto, vijendar: what do you guys think? 21:40:07 I'm not categorically opposed, but I'm not certain what the new proposed time is 21:40:23 datsun180b: I don't know what are the open slots. 21:40:36 in fact, I need to figure out how to find open slots 21:40:49 datsun180b: I was hoping that we switch to morning times 21:41:00 devkulkarni: I am OK with morning time 21:41:01 to give folks in India, like noorul, an opportunity to participate 21:41:15 right now, its 2.30am in India 21:41:33 our earlier time of 11.00am would be 9.30pm in India 21:41:52 so some time on or before 11.00am should work for both sides 21:42:06 vijendar: cool 21:42:30 I have no objections as long as we don't select the same time as the Magnum team meeting 21:42:39 adrian_otto: yes, makes sense 21:42:43 avoid 1600 UTC 21:42:45 tuesday mornings should be fine 21:42:45 I believe magnum meetings are at 11.00 21:42:55 on every alternate tuesdays, right? 21:43:07 datsun180b: cool 21:43:11 yes 21:43:14 ok 21:43:19 yes, and we are currently discussing doing all of them at 1600 UTC instead of alternating 21:43:29 adrian_otto: oh okay. good to know 21:43:37 so 11.00am is not an option 21:43:48 may be 10.00am or noon 21:44:00 noon is better for me 21:44:11 which one will work for all of you? 21:44:18 adrian_otto: ok 21:44:24 sorry, I am referring to central times 21:44:34 so yeah, 10.00am is too early for you adrian_otto 21:44:49 noon is fine with me 21:44:51 why dont u start a doodle pool. we can vote 21:45:02 muralia: sure, I can do that 21:45:09 noon austin time is good for me too 21:45:15 muralia: ok 21:45:33 vijendar, datsun180b: how does Tuesday noon sound to you? 21:46:05 adrian_otto: how to check if a particular time slot is available or not? 21:46:10 keep in mind that Austin is in CDT (UTC-5), and will shift to CST (UCT-6) on the first of November 21:46:11 in a channel? 21:46:33 datsun180b: yes 21:47:00 datsun180b: so right now, our majority of contributors are in US time zones 21:47:01 so it'll be noon tuesday for a few months, and then it'll move over an hour 21:47:14 devkulkarni: but openstack works off zulu time 21:47:21 datsun180b: good point 21:47:37 that means the chosen time will appear to be one hour sooner 21:48:07 so 1600 UTC now is 11:00 am CDT, and will be 9:00 am CST after DST ends. 21:48:08 adrian_otto: so after November 1st, it will be 11.00am. (And magnum will be at 10.00am), right? 21:48:19 yes 21:48:35 ok. (always hard to keep those things straight in my head) 21:48:45 wait, What I wrote was not right 21:48:53 yeah that's a two hour swing 21:48:54 try that again: 21:48:59 so 1600 UTC now is 11:00 am CDT, and will be 10:00 am CST after DST ends. 21:49:13 ok, that makes sense 21:49:30 so then I am proposing 1700 UTC for our meeting 21:49:47 so noon or 11am central time 21:49:51 which will be noon CDT, and 11.00am CDT after DST ends 21:49:57 that sounds dandy 21:49:59 +1 datsun180b 21:50:31 so in fact, noon will be only for few more meetings (if we do change it before DST ends) 21:50:45 ok 21:50:54 devkulkarni: works for me 21:50:55 but all of this will depend on whether the channel is available at that time 21:50:59 vijendar: cool 21:51:17 adrian_otto: how to check if this channel is available at above times? 21:52:26 alternately, we can create and petition for the annexation of #openstack-meeting-double-secret-clubhouse 21:52:52 datsun180b: :D 21:53:00 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings 21:53:20 adrian_otto: thanks 21:53:23 looking 21:53:50 http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings 21:54:19 murano is at 1700 UTC 21:55:15 we could use different channel, or look for other time 21:55:28 let me do some research on what is available 21:55:39 will come back with a suggestion for our next meeting 21:56:07 we are just about at the end 21:56:18 I have one more topic for open discussion 21:56:34 and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/solum-team-meeting.yaml needs the description to be updated to remove the mention of alternating meetings. 21:57:05 adrian_otto: oh okay 21:57:23 adrian_otto: I guess need to submit a patch. will do that 21:57:43 (devkulkarni): Figuring out details of the Solum Fishbowl session at Tokyo (when, where, what) 21:57:53 I don't have details of this yet 21:58:03 was hoping to join the cross-project meeting today to find this out 21:58:09 but could not do so 21:58:18 will try to find details about this by our next meeting 21:59:18 ok, we are in the last minute for today 21:59:38 thanks datsun180b, vijendar, muralia, james_li, adrian_otto for joining today 21:59:46 o/ 21:59:51 #endmeeting