13:01:37 #startmeeting senlin 13:01:38 Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:01:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:01:42 The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' 13:01:47 qiming: ping 13:01:58 hi, gongysh, welcome 13:02:04 hi 13:02:22 hi 13:02:30 Hi 13:02:33 please add topics to the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda 13:02:46 hi, elynn 13:02:46 hello 13:03:23 #topic liberty work items 13:03:33 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-liberty-workitems 13:03:53 container cluster work 13:04:04 just cleaned some completed workitems this afternoon 13:04:06 I think we will get an update from the SUR team tomorrow 13:04:31 I was contacted by our team there yesterday, however, I was trapped by a two-day long meeting ... 13:04:45 thanks, yanyanhu 13:04:58 what is SUR team? 13:05:08 keep me posted with the update from the team 13:05:23 it is a Shared University Research project we had with Tongji Univ 13:06:04 sure, jruano, will post an update to the team after I get inputs from them tomorrow 13:06:04 the team has been doing a great job in prototyping a container cluster using senlin 13:06:13 it was done in the context of magnum 13:07:48 Qiming, it seems you should change your network provider 13:07:52 if anyone is interested in that work, please let me know 13:08:06 gongysh, yep, my network connection just broke 13:08:53 also, jruano and I just had a phone call on the TOSCA collaboration 13:09:30 we will try leverage the standard to make senlin a very generic service for managing clusters 13:09:59 that also means we will try support container clusters as one of the killer apps 13:10:05 yes it is very exciting. i will try to see if i can share that work with the team 13:10:26 jruano, yes, totally agree 13:10:47 qiming, do we have a doc about that? 13:10:50 maybe we can schedule an online session in senlin channel for this 13:11:05 sure 13:11:24 sharing with the team what we have today, what's the mid-term, long-term plan 13:11:57 gongysh, there is a preliminary document we are working on within tosca. i think that is public. i will double check, and share out what i can 13:13:00 in terms of an online session for the team, i will schedule something shortly. 13:13:14 thanks jruano 13:13:29 kind of what we are thinking, and what is the vision 13:13:40 and how it aligns with senlin 13:14:04 yep, we need to bring anyone onto the same page 13:14:41 okay, next topic? 13:14:59 #topic summit preparation 13:15:12 a good news to share with you 13:15:41 we were just notified that one of our talk proposals was accepted 13:15:48 cool 13:15:51 great! 13:15:52 awesome 13:16:03 it was accepted before as "alternative" 13:16:10 which one 13:16:36 since there was a cancellation, we are now having a timeslot: Thursday October 29th, 9:50am- 10:30 13:16:50 haiwei, the one how senlin works with magnum I think 13:16:50 topic: Exploring Magnum and Senlin integration for autoscaling containers 13:16:58 in the Containers track 13:17:03 very cool 13:17:20 great 13:17:29 I'll let the SUR team know that as well 13:17:59 it will be the first public show case for the project 13:18:05 we really need to get it done well 13:18:35 yep, try our best to ensure it's impressive :P 13:18:37 another thing for the summit prep is some kind of meetup 13:19:11 since the number of meeting rooms is very very limited 13:19:30 even if we want to schedule something, we can only have a round-table discussion 13:19:58 can we do it outside? 13:20:14 certainly 13:20:16 Qiming, I think this is ok. The most important thing is to have a chance to make a discussion together :) 13:20:18 what day were you thinking. yes outside is another option 13:21:05 I think most participants to the summit will have their own schedule 13:21:12 i am there monday through friday. although friday probably wanted to do some sightseeing 13:21:32 in just 4 days, a lot of things to catch up, to watch, to listen, to communicate 13:21:59 we will need to find a timeslot that works for most of us 13:22:06 maybe in break time? 13:22:20 we can have a meal together :) 13:22:22 #action Qiming to start a poll on the time for team meetup during summit 13:22:38 definitely, yanyanhu 13:23:12 I'll create a poll and send it to the mailinglist 13:23:40 ok 13:23:42 I know there are some web apps that can help us do this 13:24:03 #topic mitaka planning 13:24:47 while I'm still trying to create a POC release for senlin, it's time for the team to think about next cycle 13:25:21 what are the goals we want to achieve during the next 6 month 13:26:02 yea, and we need a plan for each 2 month 13:26:04 something above my head, for everyone to think about 13:26:37 we will need to do the same, list things on an etherpad page, prioritize them, and track them there 13:26:53 yes 13:27:47 em ... why don't we just start input things now ... 13:27:55 and also BP I think. We still didn't use it well currently 13:27:56 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-mitaka-workitems 13:28:25 Is it mostly the same with the TODO.rst? 13:28:31 yes, yanyanhu, the reason is that we were not adding big features 13:28:58 haiwei, you can dump things from TODO list to the etherpad 13:29:00 yes 13:30:38 I'm typing in the etherpad 13:32:39 em ... done 13:32:57 ok, lots of things need to be done. 13:32:59 haven't looked at the TODO.rst file and the FEATURES.rst file yet 13:33:13 so one of the most important works is implementing those policies for scaling and HA 13:33:35 hey senlin group 13:33:46 Hi Qiming 13:33:51 elynn, yes, lots of things, we need to work on the list to prioritize things 13:33:57 hi, janonymous 13:34:02 welcome 13:34:22 we cannot get everything done in a single cycle 13:34:26 hi, janonymous 13:34:44 yanyanhu: hi 13:34:45 you helps are needed to review the items and prioritize them 13:35:07 feel free to add things you think are important 13:36:02 for the placement policy, we already have a WIP from Cindia 13:36:03 yea, and sign you name after the workitem you're gonna work on ;) 13:36:35 Haha. 13:36:48 : ) 13:36:50 we need more hands, more eyes, :) 13:37:01 you got my eyes :) 13:37:27 cool 13:37:41 I could help review but +1 won't matter i guess :( 13:37:59 janonymous, it matters 13:38:21 we respect all reviews 13:39:13 Qiming: I'll try to review things 13:39:21 thanks 13:40:23 please think hard team, what do you want to see in senlin 13:40:55 it won't be a one night job, let's keep working on that 13:40:59 definitely 13:41:03 #topic open discussions 13:42:21 just realized that we need to have Heat resource types for Senlin 13:42:52 yes 13:43:08 to show capabilities to replace ASG 13:43:12 yep 13:43:27 we can place them under contrib if needed 13:43:36 the earlier the better 13:43:39 I can work on that 13:43:51 cool 13:44:03 getting some early feedbacks from heat team is very important 13:44:24 many thanks, elynn 13:44:55 anything else? 13:45:04 I will prepare a spec for it and you guys need to review it. 13:45:07 or questsions? 13:45:20 hi, Qiming, about the release of senlin service 13:45:43 yes, yanyanhu 13:45:50 I have been working on that last week 13:45:51 so we need to finish those workitems left in ethpad before that? 13:46:16 I tried to create a release for senlinclient first, so that it can be published on Pypi 13:46:19 all those ones, right? 13:46:25 it didn't succeed 13:46:54 still tring to figure it out 13:47:00 ok 13:47:22 yeah client is probably best to start with 13:47:31 I think it is fine to do a POC release at this stage 13:47:57 I started from senlinclient because it is needed by the senlin-dashboard project anyway 13:48:06 need to find a guru on this 13:48:25 maybe there is some infra setup missing 13:49:09 anything else? 13:49:18 someone from our team just did this last week, but he is out this week 13:49:22 for heat-translator 13:49:48 jruano_, good to know, need some advices from him 13:49:57 yea 13:50:13 ill send him a note, but he most likely won't respond until he gets back 13:50:13 jruano_, are you talking about Sandev ? 13:50:18 yeah sahdev 13:50:19 you are back tomorrow? Qiming 13:50:37 I know him well, :) 13:50:38 he just released tosca parser and heat-translator to pypi 13:50:40 cool 13:50:53 yes, haiwei_, back from a loooooong meeting 13:50:57 took him some time, but since it is fresh in his mind he might be a good help 13:51:19 cool, it will save us a lot of time I believe 13:51:50 so, on another topic... in terms of this notion of openstack "big tent", is that something we are working towards in senlin? 13:52:15 jruano_, we need to understand the new criteria ... 13:52:23 cool 13:53:21 if I'm understanding it correctly, it is mostly about some tags that will be applied on individual projects 13:53:48 there won't be stackforge projects anymore 13:54:13 if you guys know something on this, please let me know 13:54:17 yep... maybe we just ask to tag senlin :) 13:54:27 right. 13:54:39 we can learn from some existing reviews 13:54:45 ill ask around see if i can find anything else more about it 13:54:57 cool 13:55:15 still 5 minutes 13:56:01 if nothing else for discussion today, let's end this meeting 13:56:14 nope from me 13:56:23 I'll send emails to you after reviewing the container cluster thread's progress 13:56:34 thanks for joining 13:56:41 #endmeeting