17:00:13 #startmeeting Security 17:00:14 Meeting started Thu Jun 23 17:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:18 The meeting name has been set to 'security' 17:00:31 o/ 17:00:37 o/ 17:00:39 \o 17:00:51 o/ 17:01:14 o/ 17:01:21 /o/ 17:01:25 o/ 17:01:47 o/ 17:02:19 Hey michaelxin welcome back :) 17:03:09 So last week we decided to shuffle the agenda a little bit to speed things along when we don’t have lots to go over 17:03:15 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda 17:03:32 hyakuhei: Thanks. 17:03:40 o/ 17:04:02 Hey woodster_ 17:04:12 ok so the first standing item is now Syntribos 17:04:17 hyakuhei: why is Anchor / Bandit AOB? 17:04:22 * woodster_ waves! 17:04:55 o/ 17:04:59 Daviey: because they’re pretty stable now, not much exciting stuff happening with them 17:05:03 hello vinaypotluri ! 17:05:17 Nice to see you here Daviey :) 17:05:24 we are working to make Syntribos better 17:05:26 hyakuhei: nice to see you aswell :) 17:05:32 hello there hyakuhei> 17:05:35 ccneil and mdong 17:05:43 o/ 17:05:44 #topic Syntribuos 17:05:45 so this week on Syntribos we’ve had a bunch of CR’s merged 17:05:49 £topic syntribos 17:05:51 ffs 17:05:51 yep 17:05:57 Anyway, we are still working on the improvements 17:06:00 I’m not even drinking today 17:06:15 That’s very cool, michaelxin ccneill mdong 17:06:24 One is about signals and detection rates 17:06:26 What’s the next big milestone for Syntribos ? 17:06:27 we’ve been doing some work on the output 17:06:36 Another is about reporting. 17:06:53 We are planning to get the first stable version ready 17:07:03 That's our big milestone. 17:07:05 I think we're almost done with the basic checks that we want to implement 17:07:13 we have some refactoring changes to do for tests 17:07:36 and I think we're close to done with implementing reporting how we want (with minimum confidences/severities) 17:08:08 I think we'll have something stable, though not quite finished (we can still implement more tests as we go along) within the next few weeks 17:08:16 it would be awesome to see this at the summit! I’m sure that’d be a popular presentation 17:08:29 I think we'll be able to remove opencafe within the next few weeks as well 17:08:54 we're still trying to figure out how best to structure some convenience methods to make test-writing easy and not have a lot of boilerplate code to import the same checks over and over 17:08:59 We are also using the broken API as our testbed. 17:09:12 Some improvement will be done on the broken API. 17:09:33 hyakuhei: I think we're going to hold off on presenting until we've gotten it a little more stable, so that we're not distracted by trying to present while we're still working to get the basic pieces together 17:09:54 but we'll definitely try to present something as soon as we feel confident in the tool and have some results to back it up 17:10:15 That’s a fair approach - no pressure from me I just think it’s an exciting project 17:11:16 we're inching closer and closer :) 17:11:17 hyakuhei: +1 17:11:54 Cool. Any more syntribos things ? 17:12:03 if anyone has spare cycles to check out some CRs, it would be very handy right now 17:12:16 this CR is the basis for all the signals work we're doing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331286/ 17:12:46 since it's a dependency for most of the other CRs we're working on right now, we want to get it merged as soon as we can, but we also don't want to rush it 17:12:55 Interesting. tkelsey may be interested in that 17:13:24 any help, nitpicks, etc. are appreciated :) 17:14:01 Of course :) I’ve added Tim as a review in my absence. 17:14:14 since signals underlie most of the changes we'll be making to improve test writing, we want to change them as little as possible after this CR 17:14:39 I think that's it for us 17:14:40 Makes sense. 17:15:24 #topic OSSN 17:15:50 So we asked for contributions to this last week but not much happened, tmcpeak is away 17:16:01 and I’ve been tied up 17:16:15 but I’m still looking for more contributors 17:17:36 I was considering modifying the template 17:17:42 to include authors names / org 17:17:59 wondering if putting peoples names on things might make them more interesting 17:18:24 Any thoughts on OSSN? 17:18:49 #topic Midcycle 17:19:41 hmm just looking for more info 17:19:44 but I don’t have any 17:19:49 looks like we’ve got space at IBM 17:19:55 re: OSSN, I think you're right that giving credit will probably help get more contributions from people who haven't contributed before 17:20:07 hyakuhei: nice, so we're on at IBM Austin for sure? 17:20:18 Cool, I’ll run it by nkinder 17:21:13 I suspect this will be a short meeting today :) 17:21:19 #topic docs 17:21:27 steady-state 17:21:34 Sweet, no fires? 17:21:39 a good compliance change coming in, but I'm still swamped on my end for 2 more weeks 17:21:42 not yet :) 17:21:56 Mail me when the review is up ? 17:22:05 will do 17:22:13 Cheers 17:22:15 initial is up, i'll shoot it your way 17:22:31 Excellent! 17:23:03 #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330647/ 17:23:29 I don’t have any more info on TA either. Been a bit of a busy week! 17:23:52 likewise 17:24:04 its very high on my list, but unfortunately Im massively swamped with the day job 17:24:43 ditto 17:24:50 #topic AOB 17:25:03 Don’t have much to add about Anchor other than people are trying to use it more 17:25:30 yay 17:25:33 who's using it? 17:25:52 Is the dates for mid-cycle finalized? 17:26:05 Need to check with Fernando 17:26:13 sorry for stupid questions but is AOB Anchor and Bandit ? 17:26:35 Good question, it’s any other business 17:26:37 "Any other business" 17:26:46 ok 17:26:47 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda 17:27:18 ANything on Bandit ? 17:27:40 Or ideas for the blog 17:28:03 dg___ has an idea for the blog :) 17:28:19 Oh….. 17:28:47 wait what now? 17:28:50 lol 17:29:16 remind me sicarie... 17:30:06 sicarie: trollin? 17:31:15 hyakuhei more on that one next week, we need to line some stuff up internally before we publish 17:31:21 ok buddy 17:31:38 hyakuhei: have you thought of making an openstack-ansible role for anchor? 17:31:49 I HAVE! :D 17:31:49 we could ask if someone has interest in using it 17:31:57 How about a Kolla role for anchor? :) 17:32:11 * mhayden sees a squirrel 17:32:16 We already have some AppArmor profiles but roling it into deployment magic would be an excellent next step 17:32:23 sorry, got waylaid by a drive-by discussion, was not trolling 17:32:37 Well... the biggest part is missing.. and that is client side handling and rotation, right? 17:32:40 Esepecially now it has slightly less stupid container script 17:32:58 Daviey: cathead is a thing but the certmonger guys are actually super keen to make it work 17:33:07 sure 17:33:20 #link https://github.com/admiyo/anchor-certmonger-helper 17:33:48 though I think HP got good mileage out of using cron.d 17:35:12 mhayden: what would a good next step for an openstack-ansible role? Suggest anything that’d be a good role to copy / build on 17:35:49 hyakuhei: we could use some of the scaffolding from the sahara or zaqar roles 17:35:58 Cool! 17:35:59 would just need a spec proposed with the work detailed out there 17:36:15 i've written those before for OSA, so i can help if needed 17:36:15 I’ll take a look at that hopefully early next week though I’ll have to fit it around some traffic 17:36:34 Sweet thank you! 17:36:34 I wasplanning to POC anchor in kolla.. but i'm weeks away from looking at that 17:36:50 Cool! 17:36:54 If yoi do some stuff as part of openstack-ansible, i'd love to see it 17:37:18 Sounds good 17:37:21 Ok, anything else to cover today? 17:37:39 so, i figure i'd offer an update on the security role for OSA 17:37:46 sweet! 17:37:53 there's support there now for RHEL 7, CentOS 7, Ubuntu 16.04 17:38:00 (and existing support for 14.04 remains) 17:38:29 and someone in the community is proposing a spec to rebase the RHEL7/centos/16.04 work on the soon-to-be-released stig for RHEL 7 17:38:31 That’s awesome 17:38:48 so if anyone is interested in offering opinions there, i'll let y'all know when the time comes 17:39:15 lol I don’t have opinions but I’ll try to take a look 17:39:40 Anything else ? 17:39:40 thanks -- that's it for now 17:40:00 Sweet, thanks mhayden ! useful stuff! 17:40:15 de nada 17:40:15 Ok I think that’s a wrap! 17:40:24 #endmeeting