21:01:03 <martial> #startmeeting Scientific-SIG
21:01:04 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb  6 21:01:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:01:18 <martial> #chair b1airo
21:01:19 <openstack> Current chairs: b1airo martial
21:01:30 <martial> Hi Blair, welcome
21:01:50 <b1airo> Hi martial
21:01:51 <martial> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_February_6th_2018
21:02:03 <martial> The agenda is listed above
21:02:12 <martial> #topic Vancouver Summit - 2 days left for CFP
21:02:49 <martial> So as the topic indicate, if you are waiting to add a presentation for the Vancouver summit, you have two days to do so
21:03:14 <b1airo> Hop to it!
21:03:32 <b1airo> Anything interesting from Datamachines?
21:03:49 <martial> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-categories
21:04:12 <martial> b1airo: so far not too much, we have things, but nothing ready for presentation at this summit
21:04:32 <martial> maybe later this year
21:04:45 <b1airo> Sounds good
21:05:21 <martial> not sure if other people have something to add to this PSA
21:05:22 <b1airo> Did u see zioproto has been doing some k8s as a service stuff - I hope he submits that for a talk
21:06:02 <martial> b1airo saw it, I agree, I look forward to the presentation (hopefully even accepted as a main talk)
21:06:30 <martial> (especially because it would be recorded)
21:07:25 <martial> if that is it or this topic, let's move to the next topic
21:07:41 <martial> #topic Dublin PTG - SIG time scheduled for development advocacy
21:08:26 <martial> This is something more relevant if Stif was with us
21:08:32 <martial> (Stig)
21:08:44 <martial> but Stig will be at the Dublin PTG at the end of this month
21:09:09 <martial> and we understand there will be 1/2 day scheduled for the Scientific SIG
21:09:18 <martial> we started collecting ideas on this topic last week
21:10:31 <martial> if you have information/topics to add to the conversation , please share them with us (Stig in particular)
21:11:38 <martial> going once :)
21:12:16 <martial> okay, moving on then
21:12:32 <martial> #topic HPCAC Lugano - 9-12 April
21:12:50 <martial> #link https://www.cscs.ch/publications/press-releases/swiss-hpc-advisory-council-conference-2018-hpcxxl-user-group/
21:12:51 <b1airo> Pretty quiet today
21:14:06 <martial> I am not too aware of this, but it looks like a call for paper, unfortunately the CFP is closed at this point
21:14:33 <martial> so more a FYI than anything else (sorry)
21:14:56 <martial> so moving on
21:15:29 <martial> #topic P2302/ORCA meeting in March
21:15:43 <martial> this one I can talk about
21:16:25 <martial> I have been part of the P2302 effort as well as the ORCA efforts
21:16:55 <trandles> I'm here so you two don't think you're talking to each other :P
21:17:11 <martial> so we (P2302 and ORCA) plan to have a Cloud Federation meeting to continue the effort of the P2302 and ORCA independent conversations
21:17:36 <martial> by having a joint meeting on March 19th and 20th in Gaithersburg, MD
21:18:25 <martial> we are finalizing the location (hotel, not NIST) and will share the link to register shortly
21:18:55 <martial> we are also interested in discussing --as usual-- possible speakers
21:19:55 <martial> I had a meeting earlier Today about this topic and we are wondering if people such as trandles jmlowe rbudden priteau are interested in joining (it is US based)
21:19:55 <b1airo> trandles: o/
21:20:28 <martial> the big difference being that this time, the meeting will be also in association with an IEEE effort
21:20:44 <trandles> I'm not sure I can make it martial
21:20:59 <trandles> I'm on travel now, I was on travel two weeks ago, I'm on travel first week of March
21:21:19 <trandles> b1airo: \o
21:21:22 <martial> trandles: bummer, let me know
21:21:35 <trandles> yeah I'll know more closer to early March
21:22:04 <martial> we are coordinating the meeting and will have a follow up at the Vancouver Summit
21:22:20 <trandles> in somewhat related news, containers in HPC is all the rage in the meetings I've been attending
21:22:34 <rbudden> martial: I need to confirm with my boss about Vancouver, but if I get the go ahead I’m in for helping
21:23:10 <martial> rbudden: happy to have you on board, we can talk about how you can help :)
21:23:29 <rbudden> :)
21:24:07 <martial> at this stage, we will confirm information as soon as possible
21:24:24 <martial> but basically the dates and general area (east coast) are set
21:25:28 <martial> and now for the one topic that we are opening to discussion to everybody around :)
21:25:32 <b1airo> trandles: new news in the HPC container world?
21:26:02 <martial> #topic AOB: containers in HPC is all the rage
21:26:11 <martial> all yours trandles  :)
21:26:22 <martial> (we will go to the agenda item in a few minutes :) )
21:26:57 <trandles> HPC container runtimes (Shifter, Charliecloud, Singularity) are generating a lot of interest.  Consensus is building that using the docker toolchain for building and distributing images is the best path forward because all of the runtimes can work with it.
21:27:42 <martial> cool :)
21:27:52 <trandles> some of us DOE-types are attempting to get docker on board to do an HPC-friendly runtime
21:28:17 <martial> any luck?
21:28:28 <martial> the next DockerCon federal will be in DC in a few months
21:28:39 <trandles> i.e. unprivileged, no docker daemon required on local nodes, support for diskless nodes, scale-out to deploying big (10's of GB) images to thousands of nodes
21:29:12 <trandles> um, luck in that they're willing to listen and even start to poke at some of our pain points
21:29:45 <martial> okay it is a start
21:29:50 <trandles> this is all pretty new so we'll see if we can build momentum with them
21:30:24 <trandles> But, it's obvious enough to us on the HPC operations side that what our users want is docker.  Not something docker-like...they want docker...
21:31:03 <trandles> that's all I have for now, I'll report more as it happens
21:31:29 <martial> thank you Tim, that is very good news, even if preliminary
21:31:39 <b1airo> Thanks trandles - useful to have an ear to the ground in this area
21:34:35 <martial> cool :)
21:34:37 <martial> thanks Tim
21:36:12 <martial> last topic
21:36:17 <martial> #topic Meltdown/Spectre performance impacts: does anyone have information to share
21:37:15 <martial> anybody has any examples/test cases to share with us?
21:38:27 <martial> this one in particular was more a request for information
21:39:27 <martial> I did not see any answer to my email
21:39:41 <martial> nor does it seem are there much content on the channel just now :)
21:39:59 <martial> maybe we can keep the call open for a further meeting
21:40:16 <martial> which would lead us to the last topic of the day for this meeting
21:40:22 <martial> going once ...
21:41:54 <martial> #topics AOB
21:41:56 <martial> open floor
21:44:24 <martial> okay well, then we might adjourn a little early
21:45:55 <martial> thank you everybody for joining our weekly meeting and talk to you at the next meeting
21:45:59 <martial> #endmeeting