18:05:52 #startmeeting savanna 18:05:53 Meeting started Thu Jan 30 18:05:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aignatov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:05:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:05:57 The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' 18:06:05 #topic Agenda 18:06:15 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda#Agenda_for_January.2C_30 18:07:11 i'm running this meeting today because SergeyLukjanov_ is on the flight to the FOSDEM summit in brusseil 18:07:57 it looks like there are no action items from the previous meeting so lets move to the next topic 18:08:10 #topic News / updates 18:08:17 folks, please 18:09:13 For me on the UI it has been a few bug fixes along with implementing many of the changes that tmckay has been working on (java action, streaming, etc). 18:09:53 update from me, I'm filed blueprint in the heat to implement Savanna plugin and started working on this 18:10:03 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/savanna-as-heat-resource 18:10:14 I'am woking on the agent, made a couple of preparational CRs during last week 18:10:20 crobertsrh: great progress! 18:11:06 I'm working on wrapping up a few remaining issues with the HDP images for diskimage-builder, and hope to submit a patch over the next few days (if testing goes well). 18:11:25 bob_nettleton: some troubles with testing now? 18:12:20 if you have any question about DIB and how it works you can ask IvanBereezovskiy and mattf directly or via openstack-dev 18:12:33 they are our experts in DIB :) 18:13:02 I have been working on blueprint support in ambari which will allow ambari to export a blueprint for a running cluster which is then imported into savanna when using the HDP plugin. 18:13:34 aignatov: ok, thanks. I've found a few issues related to package installs. I have a few questions about DIB that I've run into this week, so I'll ask Ivan and Matt or post to the list. thanks! 18:14:05 jspeidel: do we have Launchpad blueprint for blueprint support in Ambari? :) 18:14:30 bob_nettleton: cool! 18:14:38 aignatov, working on that ;) 18:14:50 bob_nettleton: there are people who currently working on the same thing for Spark and CDH: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69865/ 18:15:23 it makes sense to look at what they do, share you opinion, etc. 18:15:35 any others updates, guys? 18:15:38 dmitryme: ok, thanks. I'll check out this link. 18:16:21 yep, one more update Spark plugin is in progress, thanks dmitryme for pointing this out :) 18:16:30 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69865/ 18:16:58 lets move on 18:17:16 #topic Roadmap update / cleanup 18:17:30 lets skip this... no updates in this area 18:17:42 #topic Project naming collision 18:18:09 bad news confirmed, we have to rename Savanna :( 18:19:04 all you saw the mail from Sergey about this, I think 18:19:19 and he prepared etherpad 18:19:43 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/savanna-renaming 18:20:16 do you have thoughts about new name guys? 18:20:46 if yes, please share it in the etherpad above 18:21:21 savahanah... 18:21:50 savanna, but without one 'n' :) 18:21:55 SAVANA 18:22:38 jmaron: didm;t you mistaken? savaHanaH? 18:23:31 I don't have a name to propose in mind, but I have an idea to share. I think we don't really need to find synonym for "Savanna", I mean we can pick name from completely different topic 18:23:43 I like savannah, all new people call us in such kind anyway 18:25:09 alazarev: I am not sure we will be able to register trademark which is that close to 'Savanna' 18:25:26 dmitryme: agree, I liked savanna before because it has the same meaning and spelling in russsian as well as in english, so I'd like to have the similar new name 18:25:33 like 'cosmos' 18:25:43 it's just thoughts :) 18:25:44 will need to check with lawyers 18:26:04 from the top of my head, there is a distributed FS with 'Cosmos' name 18:26:32 dmitryme: it was just an example, I didn't propose that name 18:26:45 besides, I am not sure if english speakers are accustomed to that word 18:27:44 dmitryme: agree, space is everywhere 18:27:44 what is the Zotzozis 18:27:59 I see this in the etherpad :) 18:28:31 it does not google :-) 18:29:56 Saratov? ;) 18:30:33 aignatov: though I like it as its my home city name, I am afraid it does not sound 18:30:51 but it rhymes with Savanna 18:31:20 aignatov: I like it that you don't write poetry... 18:31:33 :-) 18:31:46 lol 18:32:35 ok, any more thoughts, ideas? 18:33:09 rhymes: santana, bandana, banana ;) 18:34:04 atlanta (sight of next summit) 18:34:43 jmaron: atlanta will start and over, but the name is forever :) 18:34:43 atlantis :-) 18:34:57 dmitryme: I like it 18:35:13 aignatov: I think the city will persist :-) 18:35:21 please write it to the doc:) 18:35:51 dmitryme: I hope :) 18:36:51 ariadne - She is mostly associated with mazes and labyrinths, due to her involvement in the myths of the Minotaur and Theseus. 18:36:52 Get it? we allow you to more easily navigate the maze of big data deployments… 18:37:21 also I see 'Centillion' as name, I like it as well, may be just 'Cent'? ;) 18:38:03 jmaron: good candidate as well, please document your thoughts in the doc, all ideas... 18:38:35 cent is not too valuable :) 18:40:07 alazarev: may be, but short and clear 18:40:14 I believe it is too early for discussion, let's put options to etherpad 18:41:06 general discussion? 18:41:31 alazarev: right, but don't forget that about two weeks left before we get a decision to the community and lawyers about new name 18:41:37 lets move on 18:41:46 #topic General discussion 18:42:41 sorry I was late, so I'll just mention I've started integrating support for HDP 2.0. Hope to have something for review next week 18:43:06 I have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1232075 . Does anyone knows ground for it? 18:43:45 I like idea to have all hostnames in lowercase. But it seems that real causes are needed. 18:44:40 alazarev, I remember that when capital letters were used for resources that ended up in the hostname, this caused failures in savanna 18:44:54 the hosts were not resolved properly 18:45:28 jmaron: great to hear that, will you plan HDP 2.0 with all supported functionality like EDP, cinder volumes etc...? 18:45:34 we also had the same issue with special characters in the host name like underscores 18:45:37 jspeidel: don't you muss with underscores? 18:45:38 correct. host name is assembled from cluster name, some template names, etc and upper cases caused issues 18:46:18 aignatov: that's my hope, but I may be forced to take an iterative approach (smaller commits providing incremental support) 18:46:22 alazarec, not sure what you mean by muss with underscores 18:46:31 jspeidel: sent phrase before reading your second line :) 18:46:47 if an underscore ends up in the host name, it will cause failures 18:46:57 alazarev: yes, that's was the reason for -2 from me because I don't know any cause 18:47:18 and bug description is also unclear about that 18:47:41 aignatov, I can update the bug if that would help. But this is needed 18:48:06 jspeidel: please update :) 18:48:12 I wonder if we could have some UI based validation of entries to prevent such issues? 18:48:18 unfortunately, ambari forces the useage of hostnames so we can't just use ip's 18:48:26 or at least minimize the risk 18:48:27 aignatov, will update 18:49:15 jspeidel: apache hadoop also requires use of hostnames 18:49:36 alazarev, yep 18:52:30 jmaron:looking forward for HDP 2.0 on the review ;) 18:53:03 guys, anything to discuss? 18:53:39 jmaron: will HDP 2.0 support include EDP? 18:54:29 alazarev: I'd like it to ;) 18:54:54 my goal is to use EDP as the measure of whether the integration is, in fact, working 18:54:56 jmaron: great! 18:55:53 why not? it seems easy to implement edp support for Hadoop 2.0, ooze 4.0 works with it, and we use this version with oozie 18:55:59 should work :) 18:56:24 that's my hope :) 18:56:34 with oozie -> of oozie 18:57:17 yarn need to be supported, now we have jobtracker hardcoded 18:58:37 alazarev: I see 18:58:41 ah…true. I'll need to see if I can add code to address yarn 18:59:35 1 minutes left, lets finish this meeting 18:59:49 thanks every one who's joined 19:00:06 Guys, think about new name for Savanna! 19:00:24 share your thoughts in etherpad 19:00:32 #endmeeting