18:05:52 <aignatov> #startmeeting savanna 18:05:53 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jan 30 18:05:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aignatov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:05:54 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:05:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' 18:06:05 <aignatov> #topic Agenda 18:06:15 <aignatov> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda#Agenda_for_January.2C_30 18:07:11 <aignatov> i'm running this meeting today because SergeyLukjanov_ is on the flight to the FOSDEM summit in brusseil 18:07:57 <aignatov> it looks like there are no action items from the previous meeting so lets move to the next topic 18:08:10 <aignatov> #topic News / updates 18:08:17 <aignatov> folks, please 18:09:13 <crobertsrh> For me on the UI it has been a few bug fixes along with implementing many of the changes that tmckay has been working on (java action, streaming, etc). 18:09:53 <aignatov> update from me, I'm filed blueprint in the heat to implement Savanna plugin and started working on this 18:10:03 <aignatov> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/savanna-as-heat-resource 18:10:14 <dmitryme> I'am woking on the agent, made a couple of preparational CRs during last week 18:10:20 <aignatov> crobertsrh: great progress! 18:11:06 <bob_nettleton> I'm working on wrapping up a few remaining issues with the HDP images for diskimage-builder, and hope to submit a patch over the next few days (if testing goes well). 18:11:25 <aignatov> bob_nettleton: some troubles with testing now? 18:12:20 <aignatov> if you have any question about DIB and how it works you can ask IvanBereezovskiy and mattf directly or via openstack-dev 18:12:33 <aignatov> they are our experts in DIB :) 18:13:02 <jspeidel> I have been working on blueprint support in ambari which will allow ambari to export a blueprint for a running cluster which is then imported into savanna when using the HDP plugin. 18:13:34 <bob_nettleton> aignatov: ok, thanks. I've found a few issues related to package installs. I have a few questions about DIB that I've run into this week, so I'll ask Ivan and Matt or post to the list. thanks! 18:14:05 <aignatov> jspeidel: do we have Launchpad blueprint for blueprint support in Ambari? :) 18:14:30 <aignatov> bob_nettleton: cool! 18:14:38 <jspeidel> aignatov, working on that ;) 18:14:50 <dmitryme> bob_nettleton: there are people who currently working on the same thing for Spark and CDH: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69865/ 18:15:23 <dmitryme> it makes sense to look at what they do, share you opinion, etc. 18:15:35 <aignatov> any others updates, guys? 18:15:38 <bob_nettleton> dmitryme: ok, thanks. I'll check out this link. 18:16:21 <aignatov> yep, one more update Spark plugin is in progress, thanks dmitryme for pointing this out :) 18:16:30 <aignatov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69865/ 18:16:58 <aignatov> lets move on 18:17:16 <aignatov> #topic Roadmap update / cleanup 18:17:30 <aignatov> lets skip this... no updates in this area 18:17:42 <aignatov> #topic Project naming collision 18:18:09 <aignatov> bad news confirmed, we have to rename Savanna :( 18:19:04 <aignatov> all you saw the mail from Sergey about this, I think 18:19:19 <aignatov> and he prepared etherpad 18:19:43 <aignatov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/savanna-renaming 18:20:16 <aignatov> do you have thoughts about new name guys? 18:20:46 <aignatov> if yes, please share it in the etherpad above 18:21:21 <jmaron> savahanah... 18:21:50 <aignatov> savanna, but without one 'n' :) 18:21:55 <aignatov> SAVANA 18:22:38 <aignatov> jmaron: didm;t you mistaken? savaHanaH? 18:23:31 <dmitryme> I don't have a name to propose in mind, but I have an idea to share. I think we don't really need to find synonym for "Savanna", I mean we can pick name from completely different topic 18:23:43 <alazarev> I like savannah, all new people call us in such kind anyway 18:25:09 <dmitryme> alazarev: I am not sure we will be able to register trademark which is that close to 'Savanna' 18:25:26 <aignatov> dmitryme: agree, I liked savanna before because it has the same meaning and spelling in russsian as well as in english, so I'd like to have the similar new name 18:25:33 <aignatov> like 'cosmos' 18:25:43 <aignatov> it's just thoughts :) 18:25:44 <alazarev> will need to check with lawyers 18:26:04 <dmitryme> from the top of my head, there is a distributed FS with 'Cosmos' name 18:26:32 <aignatov> dmitryme: it was just an example, I didn't propose that name 18:26:45 <dmitryme> besides, I am not sure if english speakers are accustomed to that word 18:27:44 <alazarev> dmitryme: agree, space is everywhere 18:27:44 <aignatov> what is the Zotzozis 18:27:59 <aignatov> I see this in the etherpad :) 18:28:31 <dmitryme> it does not google :-) 18:29:56 <aignatov> Saratov? ;) 18:30:33 <dmitryme> aignatov: though I like it as its my home city name, I am afraid it does not sound 18:30:51 <aignatov> but it rhymes with Savanna 18:31:20 <dmitryme> aignatov: I like it that you don't write poetry... 18:31:33 <dmitryme> :-) 18:31:46 <aignatov> lol 18:32:35 <aignatov> ok, any more thoughts, ideas? 18:33:09 <jmaron> rhymes: santana, bandana, banana ;) 18:34:04 <jmaron> atlanta (sight of next summit) 18:34:43 <aignatov> jmaron: atlanta will start and over, but the name is forever :) 18:34:43 <dmitryme> atlantis :-) 18:34:57 <aignatov> dmitryme: I like it 18:35:13 <dmitryme> aignatov: I think the city will persist :-) 18:35:21 <aignatov> please write it to the doc:) 18:35:51 <aignatov> dmitryme: I hope :) 18:36:51 <jmaron> ariadne - She is mostly associated with mazes and labyrinths, due to her involvement in the myths of the Minotaur and Theseus. 18:36:52 <jmaron> Get it? we allow you to more easily navigate the maze of big data deployments… 18:37:21 <aignatov> also I see 'Centillion' as name, I like it as well, may be just 'Cent'? ;) 18:38:03 <aignatov> jmaron: good candidate as well, please document your thoughts in the doc, all ideas... 18:38:35 <alazarev> cent is not too valuable :) 18:40:07 <aignatov> alazarev: may be, but short and clear 18:40:14 <alazarev> I believe it is too early for discussion, let's put options to etherpad 18:41:06 <alazarev> general discussion? 18:41:31 <aignatov> alazarev: right, but don't forget that about two weeks left before we get a decision to the community and lawyers about new name 18:41:37 <aignatov> lets move on 18:41:46 <aignatov> #topic General discussion 18:42:41 <jmaron> sorry I was late, so I'll just mention I've started integrating support for HDP 2.0. Hope to have something for review next week 18:43:06 <alazarev> I have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1232075 . Does anyone knows ground for it? 18:43:45 <alazarev> I like idea to have all hostnames in lowercase. But it seems that real causes are needed. 18:44:40 <jspeidel> alazarev, I remember that when capital letters were used for resources that ended up in the hostname, this caused failures in savanna 18:44:54 <jspeidel> the hosts were not resolved properly 18:45:28 <aignatov> jmaron: great to hear that, will you plan HDP 2.0 with all supported functionality like EDP, cinder volumes etc...? 18:45:34 <jspeidel> we also had the same issue with special characters in the host name like underscores 18:45:37 <alazarev> jspeidel: don't you muss with underscores? 18:45:38 <jmaron> correct. host name is assembled from cluster name, some template names, etc and upper cases caused issues 18:46:18 <jmaron> aignatov: that's my hope, but I may be forced to take an iterative approach (smaller commits providing incremental support) 18:46:22 <jspeidel> alazarec, not sure what you mean by muss with underscores 18:46:31 <alazarev> jspeidel: sent phrase before reading your second line :) 18:46:47 <jspeidel> if an underscore ends up in the host name, it will cause failures 18:46:57 <aignatov> alazarev: yes, that's was the reason for -2 from me because I don't know any cause 18:47:18 <aignatov> and bug description is also unclear about that 18:47:41 <jspeidel> aignatov, I can update the bug if that would help. But this is needed 18:48:06 <aignatov> jspeidel: please update :) 18:48:12 <jmaron> I wonder if we could have some UI based validation of entries to prevent such issues? 18:48:18 <jspeidel> unfortunately, ambari forces the useage of hostnames so we can't just use ip's 18:48:26 <jmaron> or at least minimize the risk 18:48:27 <jspeidel> aignatov, will update 18:49:15 <alazarev> jspeidel: apache hadoop also requires use of hostnames 18:49:36 <jspeidel> alazarev, yep 18:52:30 <aignatov> jmaron:looking forward for HDP 2.0 on the review ;) 18:53:03 <aignatov> guys, anything to discuss? 18:53:39 <alazarev> jmaron: will HDP 2.0 support include EDP? 18:54:29 <jmaron> alazarev: I'd like it to ;) 18:54:54 <jmaron> my goal is to use EDP as the measure of whether the integration is, in fact, working 18:54:56 <alazarev> jmaron: great! 18:55:53 <aignatov> why not? it seems easy to implement edp support for Hadoop 2.0, ooze 4.0 works with it, and we use this version with oozie 18:55:59 <aignatov> should work :) 18:56:24 <jmaron> that's my hope :) 18:56:34 <aignatov> with oozie -> of oozie 18:57:17 <alazarev> yarn need to be supported, now we have jobtracker hardcoded 18:58:37 <aignatov> alazarev: I see 18:58:41 <jmaron> ah…true. I'll need to see if I can add code to address yarn 18:59:35 <aignatov> 1 minutes left, lets finish this meeting 18:59:49 <aignatov> thanks every one who's joined 19:00:06 <aignatov> Guys, think about new name for Savanna! 19:00:24 <aignatov> share your thoughts in etherpad 19:00:32 <aignatov> #endmeeting