18:06:46 #startmeeting savanna 18:06:47 Meeting started Thu Nov 14 18:06:46 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:06:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:06:51 The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' 18:07:10 #topic Agenda 18:07:12 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda 18:07:40 #topic Action items from the last meeting 18:07:58 * SergeyLukjanov aignatov to start retrospective discussion 18:08:21 as far as i remember I should pick up one thing from what didn't work well 18:08:35 and initiate the discussion 18:08:40 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/Release_0.3_Retrospective 18:08:49 just posted retrospective page 18:09:24 it's about already achieved results 18:09:41 let's discuss it later on the meeting if you have no results right now 18:09:50 I'll add section to the meeting agenda 18:10:01 ok 18:10:05 there are no other action items from last meetings 18:10:08 that'll give the rest of us time to swap those pages back in too 18:10:22 #topic Summit results 18:10:50 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Savanna 18:11:18 here are the etherpads from the savanna design summity 18:11:46 nice job running the design sessions btw 18:11:55 mattf, thank you 18:12:10 thank you all guys for etherpads preparation help 18:12:14 I think we should see at summary sections,right and sections marked yellow 18:13:01 crobertsh and tmckay did you get guys Savanna t-shirts from mattf? ;) 18:13:22 not yet 18:13:27 I have not yet got mine, but I'm not local to his office 18:13:30 * mattf just got home ~24 hours ago 18:13:33 I suspect it is on the way :) 18:14:42 mattf, oh, I've return home about 24 hours ago too 18:14:44 :) 18:15:07 i'm hoping to put them in the mail this week (err, tomorrow?) 18:15:07 Sergey, what are our plans with these etherpads - will we write one more document with results, send to ML and create needed bps? 18:15:35 aignatov, exactly 18:16:22 aignatov, we have several subtopics, I think I prepare joined results overview and send them to ML 18:17:01 ok, great 18:17:26 hm, looks like nothing to discuss more on this topic right no, I think that we'll eventually cover on following meetings allquestions from design summit 18:17:33 #topic News / updates 18:17:39 guys, please 18:17:45 no news from my side 18:17:55 openstack summit in hong kong -- that happened... 18:18:06 only double jet lag :) 18:18:10 jmaron, here? It seems issue with hadoop log dir is fixed by Vadim's patch 18:18:52 I've been implementing "download job binary" in the dashboard. Small feature, but something that was on my list for awhile. I have a few other minor enhancements for the UI that I'll be getting to next week. 18:18:53 btw there a lot of cool bars in HKG with awesome views 18:19:58 any other news/updates? 18:20:02 crobertsrh, thx, in the design tracks about edp we decided to get UI better from EDP perspective 18:20:43 Sounds great. I'll take a look at the etherpad. 18:21:36 ok, let's move on 18:21:39 #topic Roadmap cleanup / update 18:21:51 looks like that's time to rename 1.0 to Icehouse ;) 18:21:56 +2 18:21:57 +2 18:21:57 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/Roadmap 18:22:22 ok 18:22:49 I hope that we'll understand teams throughput for I in few weeks and cleanup roadmap/bps for it 18:22:56 Fedora & RDO integration are arguably in for 0.3. we'll keep enhancing the integration, but the base work is done. 18:23:28 correct 18:24:38 btw Icehouse release date is April, 17 18:24:44 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule 18:25:02 and Icehouse-1 on Dec 5 18:25:32 yep 18:25:38 I think we should plan what will be included tin icehouse-1 18:25:49 +1 18:26:09 akuznetsov, here? 18:26:17 yes 18:26:30 yeah, it looks like that we have only few weeks to make patches for icehouse-1 18:26:35 will you send external hdfs support? 18:27:00 external hdfs, edp in hdp, polished trusts, swift auth url fix 18:27:29 I will do it tommorrow 18:27:41 reviewing swift auth atm, sergey is quick 18:28:17 akuznetsov, great 18:28:50 let's collect ideas about icehouse-1 plans till the next meeting 18:28:56 alazarev, here? today we realised that problem with Hive could be fixed by changing the swift patch for hadoop by the following way - removing credentials from core-site and add the ability for Hadoop using tenant id and authenticating using it without credentilas 18:29:01 something like that 18:29:04 here 18:29:41 there is a problem with tokens - they could expire 18:30:51 and how to authenticate without credentials? 18:31:25 alazarev, the only way is to use trusts and obtain tokens using them from swift 18:31:41 but it'll require some service user credentials in swift too 18:31:48 sounds very comple 18:31:50 complex 18:32:05 possible we should consider oAuth mechanize for this 18:32:06 agree, sounds complex 18:32:21 yep, the problem is still here :( 18:32:35 is bug filed for a problem? where can I find more details? 18:32:37 I don't know the current oauth impl status 18:32:50 #topic General discussion 18:33:06 jspeidel, here? 18:35:23 alazarev, I'm looking for it 18:37:19 aignatov, i'm reading over the retrospective and think we could effectively take on bp lifecycle and bug-scrub days for icehouse 18:37:53 Yes, +1 for bug-scrub days 18:38:02 yep, we'll need some 18:38:12 mattf, exactly, ++ 18:38:21 let's have one on the next week 18:38:52 what's about Tue? 18:38:54 Nov, 19 18:39:21 + 18:40:41 * mattf imagines team scrubbing and bp management will also help w/ collaboration improvement 18:41:11 ok, if there are no objections than we'll have bug/bp scrub/cleanup day next Tue 18:41:23 tmckay, crobertsrh, ^^? 18:41:35 sounds good to me 18:41:36 Tuesday is great for me 18:42:17 Hortonworks guys here? Will they attend Tue bug-scrub? 18:42:19 if you guys want to do it earlier in the day, i can do 9:30-10:30ET or 12:00ET (helps our west coast friends) 18:42:43 let's ping them in email 18:43:18 ET is what in UTC? 18:43:28 * mattf looks it up 18:44:31 i think it's -5 atm 18:44:40 it's currently 1:45ET 18:44:46 usually it's a all-day event when we'll communicate using irc and post comments to the bugs about their actual state 18:45:22 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 18:45:58 SergeyLukjanov, hmm, how do you usually do a bug scrub? 18:46:09 ...what's the process you've used in the past? 18:46:56 mattf, btw did you resolve issue with '16 of 20 core used'? ;) 18:47:34 aignatov, i think so. i've not been able to run my latest test. 18:47:35 we should start from cleaning all bugs 18:47:45 i've a very strong feeling it is pebkac 18:48:16 all bugs should be rechecked/triaged and their statuses should be updated 18:48:29 to sync our efforts we'll use #savanna 18:48:38 mattf, what is pebkac? 18:48:47 aignatov, basically i think my flavor was too big and during provisioning i ran over quota. rollback cleaned up resulting in 0 used when i would go and look after getting the error. 18:48:50 mattf, they invented abbreviation even for this :) 18:49:08 aignatov, problem exists between keyboard and chair -- user error 18:49:46 xD 18:49:56 SergeyLukjanov, i imagine the rechecking will be a time consuming component 18:49:57 :) 18:50:05 yep 18:50:24 so, I hope that most part of savanna folks will participate in it 18:50:40 looks like I only have a meeting on Tues from 10:30-11:30 EST, so I can pay attention to #savanna for bug scrub 18:50:52 aignatov, oh, jetlag... i did retest and it was indeed quota overrun during provisioning. i was never successful at starting the cluster because i am using a fedora image and HDP Plugin only supports CentOS 18:50:54 all day :) 18:51:08 * mattf just checked and the cluster has been in "configuring" for 6 days 18:51:19 it's named "bugday" in OpenStack 18:51:31 SergeyLukjanov, is there a wiki page about it? 18:51:38 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugDays 18:52:01 there are no details 18:52:06 but in few words 18:52:29 that's a day when volunteers rechecks bugs and updates their statuses using irc to sync 18:52:45 The next day will happen on July 12th, 2012 18:52:46 oof 18:53:01 is there food? ;-) 18:53:04 mattf, well at least now you know what problem is 18:53:13 yep, they sending emails to ML about bug days sometimes 18:53:25 w/o any schedule afaik 18:53:28 on-demand event 18:53:39 aignatov, and it's a difficult to diagnose error, esp when half asleep 18:53:50 bug day doesn't touch blueprints, right? 18:54:03 I think let's start from bugs 18:54:28 according to #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints blueprints is PTL's responsibility 18:54:37 if we start from blueprints and roadmap we have a chance at prioritizing bugs for the scrub 18:54:37 ruhe, yep 18:54:49 before cleaning bps we should finalize plans for icehouse-1 18:55:22 let's start from the bug day and I'll clean current BPs 18:55:36 * mattf checks how many bugs exist atm 18:55:40 and we discuss plans for the i-1 at the next irc 18:56:03 https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna 18:56:11 62 atm 18:56:31 yep, that's enough to check 18:56:55 #info Nov, 19 Savanna bug day 18:57:04 I'll send it to ML 18:57:13 and ping HW folks 18:57:14 tmckay, crobertsrh, you could skip that call on tues 18:57:24 ErikB, welcome 18:57:25 mattf, okey doke 18:57:31 :) 18:57:44 that's a all day long event, so, call isn't the problem :) 18:57:48 mattf, hey there 18:58:03 ErikB, o/ 18:58:07 ErikB, we're talking about doing a full day bug scrub on the 19th 18:58:15 SergeyLukjanov, don't say that, give us an excuse ;-) 18:58:16 Hi Everyone 18:58:34 hi, ErikB, did you get Savanna t-shirt from jspiedel? ;) 18:58:41 aignatov, lol 18:58:58 aignatov, I did. It's very cool. thank you 18:59:29 yep, mattf, the same question at the end :) 18:59:33 ErikB, the bug scrub would be all day triage (rechecking, update details, prioritize) bugs 18:59:34 tmckay, oops, on the other side, there shouldn't be any calls to have a good bug day ;) 18:59:48 SergeyLukjanov, lol 19:00:04 did we join the meeting an hour late? 19:00:05 got it, bug day is the priority 19:00:26 ErikB, yes 19:00:36 sorry, we had a time change 19:00:43 didn't account for that 19:00:44 My apologies, I did not adjust for time change on our end... 19:00:52 doh! I knew I hated going off DST... 19:00:57 ErikB, think of it as 167 hours early 19:01:09 ;-) 19:01:46 nirmal around? 19:01:55 we're out of time 19:01:58 thank you all 19:02:02 ciao 19:02:26 #info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions 19:02:30 #endmeeting