18:07:07 <SergeyLukjanov> #startmeeting savanna
18:07:08 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 17 18:07:07 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:07:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'savanna'
18:07:19 <ErikB> #help
18:07:33 <SergeyLukjanov> #info Agenda - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda
18:07:43 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Action items from the last meeting
18:08:06 <SergeyLukjanov> the only action item from the last meeting is "all to find and fix gaps in the docs for 0.3 release"
18:08:15 <SergeyLukjanov> and looks like it's done
18:08:22 <SergeyLukjanov> btw I hope that it's done
18:08:35 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Savanna 0.3 release
18:08:52 <SergeyLukjanov> we're ready to push the 0.3 tag today
18:09:04 <SergeyLukjanov> all critical patches was landed
18:09:16 <ErikB> excellent
18:09:41 <SergeyLukjanov> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51208/ postponed to the next milestone due to the bug with transient clusters support on backend side
18:09:51 <SergeyLukjanov> https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1241126
18:10:07 <SergeyLukjanov> I think that fix will be landed in the upcoming minor release
18:10:08 <SergeyLukjanov> 0.3.1
18:10:33 <SergeyLukjanov> any objections for pushing 0.3 tag today?
18:11:17 <aignatov> I've just checked that all others features work - antyaffininty and cinder volumes, no objections from me
18:11:37 <SergeyLukjanov> aignatov, great
18:11:48 <crobertsrh> I've been running jobs for a couple days, thing seem to be stable.
18:11:57 <SergeyLukjanov> ok, so, I'll start pushing tags in an hour
18:12:13 <SergeyLukjanov> let's move on
18:12:16 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic News / updates
18:12:17 <aignatov> yeah, it seems all edp works as expected except trusts
18:12:30 <SergeyLukjanov> folks, feel free to post updates here
18:12:43 <SergeyLukjanov> the main update from me - 0.3 release :)
18:12:58 <ErikB> On the HWX side, we've been busy creating a patch for Quantum/Neutron w.out public ips necessary
18:13:17 <aignatov> this week I mostly concentrated on preparing docs, also composed a demo about edp
18:13:34 <ErikB> In addition, we're in the merge process of adding support for various HDP services (Oozie, Hive, etc.) This will eventually be backported to 0.3
18:13:55 <ruhe> ErikB, do you have any ETA in mind for Quantum/Neutron without public ips?
18:13:59 <aignatov> let me post a link to the my edp demo
18:14:54 <aignatov> #link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_AT3b7ftRKeNm9hSlhaTm1CYkE/edit?usp=sharing
18:15:06 <SergeyLukjanov> ok, any more updates?
18:15:48 <ErikB> ruhe, we *should* be starting merge to master this week if all goes well, pending review, perhaps all wrapped up next week.
18:17:07 <ruhe> SergeyLukjanov, when do you plan to release 0.3.1?
18:17:33 <SergeyLukjanov> ruhe, I'm thinking about doing it in 2-3 weeks
18:17:45 <SergeyLukjanov> to have a release for the OS summit in HK
18:18:44 <SergeyLukjanov> it'll be good to have at least transient clusters fully op. in it and EDP support in HDP plugin
18:18:44 <ruhe> ok
18:19:13 <aignatov> Hive support as well I think
18:19:24 <aignatov> in edp
18:19:34 <SergeyLukjanov> yeah, good point, it'll be good to add it too
18:19:43 <SergeyLukjanov> some UI and docs polish maybe too
18:20:41 <nadya_> ErikB, did you have any challeges in Hive deployment?
18:20:52 <SergeyLukjanov> I'll create a milestone for it in launchpad today, please, create issues and blueprints to add them into the lp ml
18:21:19 <aignatov> did all savanna guys vote for design sessions topics?
18:21:44 <tmckay> I didn't.
18:21:52 <ruhe> we have a plenty of time. voting closes on oct22
18:21:58 <tmckay> Is there a link?
18:22:03 <SergeyLukjanov> btw I'll start merging topics at Nov 22 right after the end of voting
18:22:10 <SergeyLukjanov> Oct*
18:22:25 <alazarev> I didn't too, will do after meeting
18:22:25 <aignatov> tmckay, you should check your emai inboxl
18:22:28 <ruhe> tmckay, you should receive vote ticket in your registered email
18:22:38 <tmckay> okay :)
18:22:45 <aignatov> the subject is : "Poll: Savanna Topics for OpenStack Havana Design Summit"
18:23:08 <SergeyLukjanov> all savanna contributors should receive free ATC pass to Hong Kong summit
18:23:22 <jmaron> nadya:  John did most of the Hive integration, but one of the main concerns/issues he related was managing the service/component dependencies in a "user friendly" fashion (i.e. how does a user recognize that certain services are required for Hive deployment if they are selecting individual components?).
18:23:57 <SergeyLukjanov> ok, let's move on
18:24:01 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Roadmap cleanup / update
18:24:11 <SergeyLukjanov> #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/Roadmap
18:24:21 <ruhe> jmaron, that's a good subject for summit discussions. Heat might help this dependencies management
18:24:46 <ruhe> s/this/with
18:24:50 <SergeyLukjanov> nothing to update in roadmap from mi side
18:25:12 <dmitryme> ruhe, if I understand jmaron correctly, it is not about implementation, it is about UI
18:25:53 <dmitryme> i.e. how we will present to the user, 'please turn on this service, if you want that one to work'
18:26:03 <nadya> jmaron, thanks. I will ask John if it would be needed
18:26:20 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic General discussion
18:26:37 <dmitryme> as far as I recall jspiedel already wrote a letter about it in openstack-dev
18:26:53 <dmitryme> we just didn't had time to think about it
18:27:01 <jmaron> ruhe:  true.  I think there is already an architecture discussion proposed, so it could be discussed there
18:27:27 <jmaron> dmitryme:  true, he did
18:29:56 <SergeyLukjanov> anything else to discuss today?
18:29:59 <jmaron> service dependencies can probably be discussed in proposed Heat session or New Architecture session
18:30:21 <SergeyLukjanov> I'll merge sessions to fit 4 time slots
18:30:45 <SergeyLukjanov> I hope that the most parts of proposals will be landed to the summit sessions
18:31:07 <nadya> who is going to HK? :)
18:31:18 <ruhe> btw, i've read blogposts on Hortonworks site. reference Hadoop2 architecture with namenode HA requires ZooKeeper
18:31:42 <ruhe> that's a very tricky dependency :)
18:32:31 <jmaron> ruhe:  haven't looked much at the 2.0 integration, but it's coming…. ;)
18:32:44 <SergeyLukjanov> ruhe, yeah, especially isn virtual environment
18:34:02 * aignatov has moved 0.3 docs bp to implemented
18:34:57 <ruhe> i know it might be too early to discuss, but i'd like to hear, what you guys would like to implement during IceHouse?
18:34:58 <SergeyLukjanov> aignatov, thx
18:35:06 <ruhe> that's a question to everyone
18:35:11 <SergeyLukjanov> mattf, what's about fedora?
18:35:45 <SergeyLukjanov> ruhe, lowercase 'h' in Icehouse
18:36:18 <tmckay> personally, I'd like to keep expanding edp -- different data/job sources (external swift, hdfs, gluster, others?)
18:36:33 <aignatov> Hadoop 2.0 support and +1 to tmckay
18:36:51 <crobertsrh> I think that some sort of monitoring support is in order in the UI.
18:36:58 <akuznetsov> +1 to tmckay
18:37:03 <tmckay> we also talked at one point about hooking savanna into build servers somehow...
18:37:22 <nadya> +1 to Trevor + Sqoop
18:37:25 <tmckay> and, I would *love* to see better error reporting in horizon.  "Status: Error" is not helpful.
18:38:14 <tmckay> oh, and "relaunch" of a job execution
18:38:16 <aignatov> in edp I'd like to expand job configurations and to support not only Hive, Pig and Jar
18:38:16 <SergeyLukjanov> I hope that we'll be able to migrate to some common rest api framework with better exceptions handling
18:38:19 <tmckay> I think it would be useful.
18:38:30 <crobertsrh> tmckay:  I just submitted a bug for relaunch of job-execution :)
18:38:35 <tmckay> +1
18:38:36 <dmitryme> +1 to tmckay: be more nice with a user
18:39:02 <tmckay> we also talked about allowing user uploaded Oozie workflows.
18:39:08 <SergeyLukjanov> for me, the main goal for the next milestone is to integrate with other OS projects and graduate from the incubation
18:39:10 <jmaron> enhanced UI experience (service/component dependencies, template editing) would be nice
18:39:29 <dmitryme> also I'd like to see Savanna more scalable and resilient
18:39:41 <NikitaKonovalov> +1 to tmacky and jmaron, there are a lot of areas to improve UI
18:39:57 <jmaron> dmitryme:  +1, especially around large clusters
18:40:09 <tmckay> SergeyLukjanov, +1, there was a lot of talk at the incubation meetings of Savanna integrating with Heat, etc.  Maybe if those projects don't have what Savanna needs, we can jump on and help them get there :)
18:40:54 <aignatov> SergeyLukyanov, yes, that's the highest priority for all of Savanna contributos
18:43:08 <tmckay> hmm, Savanna would be easier to package for Fedora than some of the hadoop stuff because its Python, not Java.  I wonder how many unpackaged dependencies it has...
18:44:11 <ruhe> afaik, all dependencies have packages
18:44:41 <SergeyLukjanov> ruhe, yeah
18:44:54 <ruhe> we're including Savanna in Fuel, didn't have any issues with dependency packages
18:51:23 <aignatov> is it time to fininsh?
18:51:38 <SergeyLukjanov> yep
18:51:46 <SergeyLukjanov> #info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions
18:51:49 <SergeyLukjanov> #endmeeting