14:08:20 #startmeeting sahara 14:08:21 Meeting started Thu Jul 9 14:08:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeremyfreudberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:08:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:08:24 o/ 14:08:24 The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' 14:08:29 o/ 14:09:12 #topic open discussion 14:09:23 nothing specifically to be merged, apart from https://review.opendev.org/#/c/738052/ 14:09:36 which probably requires Telles to look at it 14:09:40 right 14:09:59 and about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739424/, I'm not exactly happy 14:10:24 yes, i'm not happy either 14:10:38 I pushed back several times, and I feel I was mislead 14:10:57 misled* 14:12:27 i don't remember the exact conversations, but i thought that we had reached an agreement where sahara could remain in upstream tripleo 14:13:46 yes, and I was later told the new container generation system (not kolla-based) would have helped making it easier to split upstream and downstream behavior and patches 14:14:05 (as Sahara has been removed in OSP) 14:14:14 but this removal goes against that 14:14:55 I've seen the change during the weekend, politely complained in the review which removes sahara back to train (!!!) and that's it 14:15:05 I didn't feel like pushing it again 14:15:43 but I may change my mind, if the right time comes 14:17:20 i need to look more into the new-style tripleo container generation before i can make an assessment about what is appropriate from a technical perspective 14:17:39 right now i am just more upset about nonfriendly behavior in the community 14:21:45 anyway, that's all i wanted to mention today... it is good to have some meeting logs about this matter 14:23:34 yeah 14:23:47 ok, i will close the meeting 14:24:29 #endmeeting