14:08:20 <jeremyfreudberg> #startmeeting sahara
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14:08:24 <tosky> o/
14:08:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:08:29 <jeremyfreudberg> o/
14:09:12 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic open discussion
14:09:23 <tosky> nothing specifically to be merged, apart from https://review.opendev.org/#/c/738052/
14:09:36 <tosky> which probably requires Telles to look at it
14:09:40 <jeremyfreudberg> right
14:09:59 <tosky> and about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739424/, I'm not exactly happy
14:10:24 <jeremyfreudberg> yes, i'm not happy either
14:10:38 <tosky> I pushed back several times, and I feel I was mislead
14:10:57 <tosky> misled*
14:12:27 <jeremyfreudberg> i don't remember the exact conversations, but i thought that we had reached an agreement where sahara could remain in upstream tripleo
14:13:46 <tosky> yes, and I was later told the new container generation system (not kolla-based) would have helped making it easier to split upstream and downstream behavior and patches
14:14:05 <tosky> (as Sahara has been removed in OSP)
14:14:14 <tosky> but this removal goes against that
14:14:55 <tosky> I've seen the change during the weekend, politely complained in the review which removes sahara back to train (!!!) and that's it
14:15:05 <tosky> I didn't feel like pushing it again
14:15:43 <tosky> but I may change my mind, if the right time comes
14:17:20 <jeremyfreudberg> i need to look more into the new-style tripleo container generation before i can make an assessment about what is appropriate from a technical perspective
14:17:39 <jeremyfreudberg> right now i am just more upset about nonfriendly behavior in the community
14:21:45 <jeremyfreudberg> anyway, that's all i wanted to mention today... it is good to have some meeting logs about this matter
14:23:34 <tosky> yeah
14:23:47 <jeremyfreudberg> ok, i will close the meeting
14:24:29 <jeremyfreudberg> #endmeeting