14:00:37 #startmeeting sahara 14:00:38 Meeting started Thu Jul 28 14:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:42 The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' 14:00:47 hello folks 14:01:07 hi 14:01:12 o/ 14:01:14 hi 14:01:41 o/ 14:02:42 o/ 14:03:10 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda 14:03:18 #topic News / updates 14:03:39 Elephant is the mascot for sahara project! 14:03:45 \o/ 14:03:47 \o/ 14:03:53 cool 14:03:54 I love the remote control elephant. 14:04:04 so no problems with the Hadoop logo? 14:04:05 o/ 14:04:07 egafford, just elephant 14:04:09 Does it still have the antenna on its head? 14:04:11 Ah. 14:04:40 * egafford was pretty fond of the antenna on its head, but sacrifices must be made. 14:05:41 Got pulled downstream pretty hard recently I fear. I'm now on strike from downstream work until my demands are met, and my demands are that I finish documenting the image gen CLI and putting up example code. :) 14:05:54 lol 14:05:58 Saharaclient is going to be released soon, since we are in N3 we will more often releases for saharaclient 14:06:26 i have not done much with sahara in the last week, it's becoming increasingly unlikely that i can shave time off to work on it :/ 14:07:05 elmiko: Thanks for your valor in shaving time off thus far. 14:07:26 wish i could have done more, i'm worried about v2 =( 14:07:51 also, if feature require client changes, there are around 3 weeks to complete that 14:08:30 I have put up a new patch on the refactoring of floating ips, it is failing some ci tests, but I think it would be good to have some eyes look at it 14:08:41 tellesnobrega: Ack. 14:08:45 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336597/ 14:08:46 right now in this scope we have 3 features: designate (small change) ; sorting abilities for lists ; and probably boot from volume if NikitaKonovalov will push a spec about that soon 14:09:29 vgridnev: (This is the set of features that require client changes, right?) 14:10:18 and also around 4 weeks to just complete features. + (around 2 weeks of FF if FFE granted) 14:10:25 egafford, yes 14:10:34 vgridnev: Cool. 14:11:36 I think I finally found how to properly move the CLI tests under the existing tempest plugin, it's the last version of the patch (under gates right now) 14:12:04 writing cli tests and fixing coverage for unit-tests for sahara scenario framework 14:12:11 I'm going to complete plugin's API in dashboard shortly after release client (which will be today, I think) 14:13:43 anything else? 14:14:34 fix for storm scaling problem is being pushed in a minute 14:14:41 cool 14:15:02 probably want to get that in so we can fix the test in the gat 14:15:04 gate 14:15:34 tellesnobrega, we will discuss that after meeting, ok? 14:15:41 vgridnev, sure 14:16:10 elmiko, I think we don't APIv2 today? 14:16:18 don't need* 14:16:32 yeah, we should probably consider removing it from the agenda 14:16:41 unless someone else is willing to guide the effort 14:17:05 although, big thanks to Mikhail for adding the pagination stuff into v2 14:17:17 #topic Open discussion 14:18:39 I thought about some deprecations for plugins, so now it should be simple 14:18:41 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348257/ 14:19:49 vgridnev: Yeah, this is a really nice feature. 14:19:55 this is going to deprecate CDH 5; 5.3; 5.4 (keeping enabled, deprecated since Newton, removed at least in P or later) 14:20:37 (It's amazing for packagers too, btw; lets us disable and deprecate without removing code paths, which is always tricky with unit tests.) 14:21:21 for MapR 5.0.0 is deprecated, and since it's based on unstable distrib; I think it can be removed it in Ocata) 14:22:45 additionally, there is a cool spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322347/ about feature matrix, I think that it's something that we can do with labels 14:25:18 vgridnev: That'd certainly be great for test. 14:25:30 that is pretty cool :) 14:26:04 just as a reminder, voting for talks is open 14:26:20 and also I posted a discussion about removing old CLI 14:26:23 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/100224.html 14:26:36 would love to see your opinions 14:26:45 vgridnev: maybe the email should have some other tag in addition to [sahara] 14:26:47 NikitaKonovalov, absolutely 14:27:03 There are some interesting Sahara-related submissions by other companies btw 14:27:08 this is part of the general discussion about deprecations; keystone did it, so they had to follow some guidelines 14:28:25 tosky, interesting, what tag can be additionally? I have no idea; actually there is a same letter in openstack operators ML 14:29:34 NikitaKonovalov, yeah, at least one talk for Intel folks (for Weiting) is going to be interesting 14:30:17 vgridnev: the idea would be to get opinion from other groups, but I'm not sure what is the right group for that 14:30:22 I always forget 14:30:45 elmiko: do you remember who is in charge for deprecation policies for such tools (like CLI)? 14:31:03 anyway, feel free to reply on my message with needed tag 14:31:39 hmm 14:32:04 not sure if there is a central authority for that, aside from the governance tag 14:32:24 it might be worth suggesting it as a topic for the next cross-project meeting? 14:32:41 or at least talking with that group for suggestions 14:33:39 elmiko, as far as I know there is no cross project meeting now (or I'm missed something) 14:33:48 ah, did they cancel it? 14:34:10 then maybe just send the message to [all][sahara] ? 14:34:12 I don't remember 14:34:25 or [governance], does it exist as tag? 14:34:28 or if you really want to escalate, [tc] 14:34:35 tosky: not sure about that one 14:34:40 elmiko, all is possible I think 14:35:08 ah, [tc] maybe 14:35:09 i think sending an email to get some feedback is an excellent idea, even if you just spam everyone with [all] 14:36:21 elmiko, for example http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-November/009019.html 14:36:48 just keystone 14:37:11 that seems like a good example 14:37:26 if we deprecate, send to operators list as well. very nice visibility 14:37:48 s/if/when/ ;) 14:40:07 anything else that we can discuss? 14:41:32 Can't think of anything. 14:43:15 me neither 14:43:50 ok, thanks folks! 14:43:51 ok, thanks folks 14:43:55 o/ 14:43:58 argh 14:44:06 #endmeeting