14:00:37 <vgridnev> #startmeeting sahara
14:00:38 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jul 28 14:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:42 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:00:47 <vgridnev> hello folks
14:01:07 <tosky> hi
14:01:12 <egafford> o/
14:01:14 <raissa> hi
14:01:41 <elmiko> o/
14:02:42 <NikitaKonovalov> o/
14:03:10 <vgridnev> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda
14:03:18 <vgridnev> #topic News / updates
14:03:39 <vgridnev> Elephant is the mascot for sahara project!
14:03:45 <egafford> \o/
14:03:47 <tosky> \o/
14:03:53 <elmiko> cool
14:03:54 <egafford> I love the remote control elephant.
14:04:04 <tosky> so no problems with the Hadoop logo?
14:04:05 <tellesnobrega> o/
14:04:07 <vgridnev> egafford, just elephant
14:04:09 <egafford> Does it still have the antenna on its head?
14:04:11 <egafford> Ah.
14:04:40 * egafford was pretty fond of the antenna on its head, but sacrifices must be made.
14:05:41 <egafford> Got pulled downstream pretty hard recently I fear. I'm now on strike from downstream work until my demands are met, and my demands are that I finish documenting the image gen CLI and putting up example code. :)
14:05:54 <elmiko> lol
14:05:58 <vgridnev> Saharaclient is going to be released soon, since we are in N3 we will more often releases for saharaclient
14:06:26 <elmiko> i have not done much with sahara in the last week, it's becoming increasingly unlikely that i can shave time off to work on it :/
14:07:05 <egafford> elmiko: Thanks for your valor in shaving time off thus far.
14:07:26 <elmiko> wish i could have done more, i'm worried about v2 =(
14:07:51 <vgridnev> also, if feature require client changes, there are around 3 weeks to complete that
14:08:30 <tellesnobrega> I have put up a new patch on the refactoring of floating ips, it is failing some ci tests, but I think it would be good to have some eyes look at it
14:08:41 <egafford> tellesnobrega: Ack.
14:08:45 <tellesnobrega> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336597/
14:08:46 <vgridnev> right now in this scope we have 3 features: designate (small change) ; sorting abilities for lists ; and probably boot from volume if NikitaKonovalov will push a spec about that soon
14:09:29 <egafford> vgridnev: (This is the set of features that require client changes, right?)
14:10:18 <vgridnev> and also around 4 weeks to just complete features. + (around 2 weeks of FF if FFE granted)
14:10:25 <vgridnev> egafford, yes
14:10:34 <egafford> vgridnev: Cool.
14:11:36 <tosky> I think I finally found how to properly move the CLI tests under the existing tempest plugin, it's the last version of the patch (under gates right now)
14:12:04 <zemuvier> writing cli tests and fixing coverage for unit-tests for sahara scenario framework
14:12:11 <vgridnev> I'm going to complete plugin's API in dashboard shortly after release client (which will be today, I think)
14:13:43 <vgridnev> anything else?
14:14:34 <tellesnobrega> fix for storm scaling problem is being pushed in a minute
14:14:41 <vgridnev> cool
14:15:02 <tellesnobrega> probably want to get that in so we can fix the test in the gat
14:15:04 <tellesnobrega> gate
14:15:34 <vgridnev> tellesnobrega, we will discuss that after meeting, ok?
14:15:41 <tellesnobrega> vgridnev, sure
14:16:10 <vgridnev> elmiko, I think we don't APIv2 today?
14:16:18 <vgridnev> don't need*
14:16:32 <elmiko> yeah, we should probably consider removing it from the agenda
14:16:41 <elmiko> unless someone else is willing to guide the effort
14:17:05 <elmiko> although, big thanks to Mikhail for adding the pagination stuff into v2
14:17:17 <vgridnev> #topic Open discussion
14:18:39 <vgridnev> I thought about some deprecations for plugins, so now it should be simple
14:18:41 <vgridnev> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348257/
14:19:49 <egafford> vgridnev: Yeah, this is a really nice feature.
14:19:55 <vgridnev> this is going to deprecate CDH 5; 5.3; 5.4 (keeping enabled, deprecated since Newton, removed at least in P or later)
14:20:37 <egafford> (It's amazing for packagers too, btw; lets us disable and deprecate without removing code paths, which is always tricky with unit tests.)
14:21:21 <vgridnev> for MapR 5.0.0 is deprecated, and since it's based on unstable distrib; I think it can be  removed it in Ocata)
14:22:45 <vgridnev> additionally, there is a cool spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322347/ about feature matrix, I think that it's something that we can do with labels
14:25:18 <egafford> vgridnev: That'd certainly be great for test.
14:25:30 <tellesnobrega> that is pretty cool :)
14:26:04 <NikitaKonovalov> just as a reminder, voting for talks is open
14:26:20 <vgridnev> and also I posted a discussion about removing old CLI
14:26:23 <vgridnev> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/100224.html
14:26:36 <vgridnev> would love to see your opinions
14:26:45 <tosky> vgridnev: maybe the email should have some other tag in addition to [sahara]
14:26:47 <vgridnev> NikitaKonovalov, absolutely
14:27:03 <NikitaKonovalov> There are some interesting Sahara-related submissions by other companies btw
14:27:08 <tosky> this is part of the general discussion about deprecations; keystone did it, so they had to follow some guidelines
14:28:25 <vgridnev> tosky, interesting, what tag can be additionally? I have no idea; actually there is a same letter in openstack operators ML
14:29:34 <vgridnev> NikitaKonovalov, yeah, at least one talk for Intel folks (for Weiting) is going to be interesting
14:30:17 <tosky> vgridnev: the idea would be to get opinion from other groups, but I'm not sure what is the right group for that
14:30:22 <tosky> I always forget
14:30:45 <tosky> elmiko: do you remember who is in charge for deprecation policies for such tools (like CLI)?
14:31:03 <vgridnev> anyway, feel free to reply on my message with needed tag
14:31:39 <elmiko> hmm
14:32:04 <elmiko> not sure if there is a central authority for that, aside from the governance tag
14:32:24 <elmiko> it might be worth suggesting it as a topic for the next cross-project meeting?
14:32:41 <elmiko> or at least talking with that group for suggestions
14:33:39 <vgridnev> elmiko, as far as I know there is no cross project meeting now (or I'm missed something)
14:33:48 <elmiko> ah, did they cancel it?
14:34:10 <elmiko> then maybe just send the message to [all][sahara] ?
14:34:12 <vgridnev> I don't remember
14:34:25 <tosky> or [governance], does it exist as tag?
14:34:28 <elmiko> or if you really want to escalate, [tc]
14:34:35 <elmiko> tosky: not sure about that one
14:34:40 <vgridnev> elmiko, all is possible I think
14:35:08 <tosky> ah, [tc] maybe
14:35:09 <elmiko> i think sending an email to get some feedback is an excellent idea, even if you just spam everyone with [all]
14:36:21 <vgridnev> elmiko, for example http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-November/009019.html
14:36:48 <vgridnev> just keystone
14:37:11 <elmiko> that seems like a good example
14:37:26 <elmiko> if we deprecate, send to operators list as well. very nice visibility
14:37:48 <elmiko> s/if/when/ ;)
14:40:07 <vgridnev> anything  else that we can discuss?
14:41:32 <egafford> Can't think of anything.
14:43:15 <tellesnobrega> me neither
14:43:50 <vgridnev> ok, thanks folks!
14:43:51 <vgridnev> ok, thanks folks
14:43:55 <egafford> o/
14:43:58 <vgridnev> argh
14:44:06 <vgridnev> #endmeeting