18:00:05 <vgridnev> #startmeeting sahara
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18:00:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
18:00:12 <egafford> o/
18:00:19 <vgridnev> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda
18:00:23 <vgridnev> hello folks!
18:00:57 <vgridnev> #chair egafford
18:00:58 <openstack> Current chairs: egafford vgridnev
18:01:10 <vgridnev> HA mode enabled
18:01:22 <egafford> vgridnev: :)
18:02:04 <elmiko> o/
18:02:43 <NikitaKonovalov> o/
18:03:43 <vgridnev> #topic News / updates
18:04:34 <vgridnev> nothing for me (since I'm traveling a little); I'll update my patches and spec soon
18:04:37 <elmiko> not much to say for me, been wrapped up with internal projects
18:05:15 <NikitaKonovalov> I'm working on some bug fixes. Those are pretty minor but still need to be done. Looks like our keystone trusts model needs improvements
18:05:21 <vgridnev> seems that Sahara CI are more stable now, but jenkins is not happy sometimes
18:05:21 <egafford> Not a ton on my end, sadly; mostly downstream testing and bugfix for release. Worked on a spec for plugin-side image gen CLI, but it's not ready for review yet. Pretty straightforward though, happily.
18:07:04 <vgridnev> egafford, waiting for spec : )
18:07:33 <vgridnev> are there other updates?
18:08:20 <vgridnev> #topic Review priorities
18:08:32 <vgridnev> #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-review-priorities
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18:08:49 <vgridnev> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-review-priorities
18:09:40 <vgridnev> so, Newton - 1 is coming soon, please continue review high prio changes in order to get good n1 release
18:11:09 <vgridnev> if there are some changes that should be landed in n1, please add them in the ether pad
18:11:22 <vgridnev> ok, next
18:11:43 <vgridnev> #topic Open discussion
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18:11:57 <vgridnev> #topic API v2 progress
18:12:07 <vgridnev> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273316/
18:12:13 <vgridnev> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/api-v2
18:12:20 <vgridnev> elmiko, how is it going?
18:13:46 <elmiko> going slowly
18:13:56 <elmiko> i haven't had any reviews for the last week
18:14:09 <elmiko> my hope is that over the next month i can get another spec up for the microversions
18:14:49 <elmiko> i have a bunch of internal stuff that is taking my time away and i have limited bandwidth for this currently =(
18:15:53 <vgridnev> seems that we have a stuck on "specs" stage, that is sad. Can we something to improve that?
18:16:22 <elmiko> hmm, not sure
18:16:40 <elmiko> i could send an email talking about my status to the ML and try to organize a bigger push?
18:17:07 <elmiko> but, i mean, we already have the wiki page and everything. we just need more bodies
18:18:07 <elmiko> i'm open to suggestions =)
18:18:41 <vgridnev> that seems reasonable. we have folks (Poornima, 	Pratik Gadiya huichun as far as I know) that have some tasks in API v2 area, I guess that them should help in writing specs stage
18:19:10 * egafford thinks we're just resource-light at the moment, but I really do think Sahara will get a lot more interest and then people the minute baremetal-to-tenant becomes even a little more real.
18:20:15 <egafford> elmiko: Are there any light specs up that would be good intro-to-dev-for-Sahara fodder?
18:20:22 <elmiko> yea, i'm not sure on the path forward here. i simply don't have the bandwidth to cover all the bases :/
18:20:25 <egafford> I might know a few engineers looking for such tasks. :)
18:20:54 <elmiko> there are some tasks on the wiki page that would certainly be easy to pickup
18:21:56 <elmiko> the main spec we need for the end of apiv2 is microversions, but everything else is doable as updates to either endpoints or json responses
18:21:58 <egafford> Some of the renames seem super bit-sides.
18:22:00 <egafford> sized.
18:22:04 <elmiko> yea
18:22:14 <elmiko> i tried to decompose it for anyone to work on
18:22:24 <egafford> Solid. :)
18:25:22 <elmiko> i think that's all i have for now
18:25:37 <vgridnev> So, I we need to think how to bring new folks to Sahara community. Easy to pick up tasks also are needed, probably we need some place to concentrate them.
18:25:41 <vgridnev> At least
18:26:09 <vgridnev> #topic Open discussion
18:26:26 <egafford> vgridnev: +1. Doing some bp and bug pruning in Launchpad could help with that (it's hard to know what to do if there's a bunch of cruft.)
18:29:33 * egafford is assuming we primarily want to record tasks in bugs and bps. We could spin up a wiki for them, but. Hm; looks like there's no explicit "low-hanging fruit" kind of tag in launchpad.
18:29:47 <elmiko> there should be
18:29:56 <egafford> elmiko: Yeah, it'd be handy.
18:29:56 <elmiko> at least, there was a low-hanging-fruit tag
18:30:04 <elmiko> i know i'ver used it before
18:30:10 <egafford> elmiko: Ah, perhaps I'm completely incorrect.
18:30:46 <vgridnev> ok, for sure I will try to start collect ideas / bugs / bps. And then we to understand how to *push* that to community, like Outreachy Program, or Google start to code (is it right name). Probably Product WG should know how to so; I don't know
18:31:10 <vgridnev> I'm still using low-hanging-fruit tag for bugs
18:31:15 <egafford> I can ask in the next product WG meeting.
18:31:25 <elmiko> cool
18:31:39 <elmiko> egafford: try using the tag "low-hanging-fruit", that yields results for me
18:31:44 <egafford> elmiko: Ah, that makes sense. Bugs but not bps.
18:31:54 <egafford> I was looking for bps specifically.
18:31:54 <elmiko> right
18:31:57 <elmiko> ah
18:33:02 <egafford> I know vkmc on my team (as well as elmiko) has done a ton of intern/outreach kinda stuff. Getting someone in to work on Sahara might be quite possible, though we might be out of cycle right now.
18:33:18 <elmiko> yea, outreachy just began a new cycle
18:33:29 <elmiko> not sure about the other intern programs
18:35:33 <vgridnev> is there something additional that we need to cover?
18:35:59 <elmiko> nothing from me
18:36:04 <egafford> Don't think so.
18:36:55 <vgridnev> ok, thanks for attending : )
18:36:57 <vgridnev> #stopmeeting
18:36:58 <egafford> o/
18:37:00 <elmiko> thanks vgridnev
18:37:09 <vgridnev> oops
18:37:14 <vgridnev> #endmeeting