20:24:12 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
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20:24:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
20:24:18 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
20:24:21 <prometheanfire> o/
20:24:29 <smcginnis> o/
20:24:31 <prometheanfire> tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann ping
20:24:39 <dirk> o/
20:25:33 <prometheanfire> wont get started for a couple min since we are early, hoping dhellmann is around so we'd have all the 'normal' people
20:25:54 <smcginnis> Does that mean I should leave?
20:26:06 <smcginnis> :P
20:26:48 <tonyb> smcginnis: :D
20:26:53 <prometheanfire> it'd mean we should all leave I suppose
20:27:08 <smcginnis> Probably true!
20:28:01 * tonyb has never been described as normal before, not going to start now
20:28:20 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
20:28:47 <prometheanfire> openstacksdk should be known about but isn't a controversy
20:29:02 <smcginnis> Futures update is just pending a keystone fix?
20:29:12 <smcginnis> openstacksdk just needs a new cliff.
20:30:03 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: future is fixed in 0.17.1 (which is merging soonish)
20:30:16 <prometheanfire> a second review on https://review.openstack.org/614608 would be nice
20:30:23 <prometheanfire> dirk: it's sunday here
20:31:09 <prometheanfire> ok, moving on :D
20:31:21 * tonyb needs to check where that new cliff is
20:31:26 <prometheanfire> I think I should bring https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-libs up again since it's an ongoing problem
20:31:30 * prometheanfire is a lemming
20:32:02 <smcginnis> Did neutron create a lib? I can't remember now.
20:32:10 <dirk> prometheanfire: the scary part is that it's Halloween here ;-)
20:32:28 <dirk> There is a neutron-lib package
20:32:32 <smcginnis> 🎃
20:32:33 <prometheanfire> tonyb: you were saying I should contact the projects individually first?
20:32:33 <tonyb> Flesh out a bit and bring it up on the mainling list, could be a good goal for 'U'
20:32:36 <prometheanfire> dirk: yep :P
20:32:51 <prometheanfire> ya, U would be a good target
20:32:56 <tonyb> prometheanfire: do the research on who's impacted and discuss with them what that'd be
20:32:58 <prometheanfire> tonyb: when will train be confirmed? :P
20:33:15 <tonyb> prometheanfire: The T release poll closes in just over a week
20:33:28 <tonyb> prometheanfire: but then we need to do the trademark vetting on the ordered list
20:33:30 <prometheanfire> for the summit, gotcha
20:33:32 <smcginnis> Then all the legal vetting
20:33:49 <prometheanfire> ah, let's hope for train then :D
20:33:56 <tonyb> prometheanfire: given it's so close to the summit I think all we'll have is the popular vote with nothign confirmed
20:33:59 <tonyb> but I could be wrong
20:34:04 <prometheanfire> ya
20:34:13 <smcginnis> Yeah, that would be quick turnaround compared to the past.
20:34:15 <prometheanfire> dirk: here too
20:35:16 <prometheanfire> ok, I'll get the libs using projects
20:35:20 <dirk> One could do the legal check during the poll
20:35:23 <prometheanfire> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/oCWIewfC505aTTwlezBv/ for neutron for example
20:35:43 <dirk> And combine it with the outcome of the poll
20:36:14 <tonyb> dirk: Well the point is to only check the popular options to save time/money
20:36:28 <prometheanfire> ok, moving on
20:36:31 <prometheanfire> summit
20:36:33 <prometheanfire> who's going?
20:36:43 * tonyb 
20:36:43 <prometheanfire> o/
20:36:58 * dirk o/
20:37:01 * smcginnis 
20:37:16 <prometheanfire> nice
20:38:27 <prometheanfire> well, see you there, I have a talk, will probably send slides early next week if you don't mind
20:38:30 <prometheanfire> https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22145/using-the-openstack-requirements-process-to-manage-dependencies-in-large-projects
20:39:05 <tonyb> prometheanfire: good luck with that
20:39:15 <prometheanfire> we should meet up one night, I'll be there from 10th -> 18th (travel inclusive)
20:39:15 <tonyb> prometheanfire: happy to look at them
20:39:35 <prometheanfire> tonyb: thanks, I'll need it, not sure there's enough there for 40 min tbh, but we'll see
20:39:47 <smcginnis> 8th to 17th for me. Would be great to grab a drink.
20:39:50 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Yup we can probably do a joint release/requirements/infra thing
20:40:00 <prometheanfire> tonyb: yep
20:40:06 <dhellmann> count me in for that
20:40:18 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: any is doing a ghost tour thing
20:40:19 <tonyb> 10->16th for me
20:40:29 <smcginnis> When is the tour?
20:40:32 <prometheanfire> cool
20:40:36 <prometheanfire> not scheduled yet
20:40:39 <smcginnis> k
20:40:41 <dirk> 12-15 for me
20:40:52 <dirk> But my travel is the shortest ;-)
20:40:56 <tonyb> dirk: :)
20:41:03 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: want to be added to the osa group chat (hangouts) (same for others)
20:41:04 <smcginnis> :)
20:41:08 <dirk> What a change
20:41:11 <smcginnis> prometheanfire: Sure.
20:41:19 <smcginnis> That might help.
20:41:19 <tonyb> prometheanfire: sure.
20:41:20 <dhellmann> prometheanfire : what is that?
20:41:28 * prometheanfire has two changes (iad/txl)
20:41:34 <dirk> Happy to review slides or have a drink though
20:41:39 <prometheanfire> dhellmann: openstack ansible google hangouts
20:41:53 <tonyb> dhellmann: Just like the google hangout RedHat has only with the openstack-ansible team (and on-hangers)
20:41:57 <dhellmann> ah
20:42:01 <dhellmann> sure, sign me up
20:42:11 <prometheanfire> cool
20:42:15 <tonyb> dhellman: may never be the same again ;P
20:42:24 <prometheanfire> I expect suits
20:42:47 <prometheanfire> #topic open floor
20:43:07 <smcginnis> Nada
20:43:14 <tonyb> So 'new-release' bot chnages
20:43:26 <tonyb> are we doing single coer approvals on them now?
20:43:29 <prometheanfire> yep
20:43:41 * tonyb noticed a few go in that way but others not so #confused
20:44:05 <prometheanfire> bot updates can be single approved
20:44:07 <tonyb> Are the rules written somewhere?
20:44:08 <smcginnis> Given activity and test coverage, that's probably fine.
20:44:15 <dhellmann> cool
20:44:19 * prometheanfire thinks theres a bug for that
20:44:21 <dhellmann> and yeah, they're easy enough to revert, too
20:44:55 <prometheanfire> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003792
20:45:00 <tonyb> okay ood to be on the same page
20:45:01 <prometheanfire> looks like a task needs to be added for that
20:45:07 <dirk> Wfm
20:45:24 <prometheanfire> anyone else?
20:46:52 <tonyb> not for me
20:47:16 <prometheanfire> k, just talk if you have something
20:47:18 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting