20:30:00 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
20:30:01 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Oct  3 20:30:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:30:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
20:30:08 <prometheanfire> right on time :D
20:30:12 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
20:30:17 <prometheanfire> tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann ping
20:30:35 <smcginnis> o/
20:30:47 <prometheanfire> o/
20:31:31 <dhellmann> o/
20:32:22 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
20:32:55 <smcginnis> I've seen a lot of failures, but nothing controversial that I'm aware of.
20:32:56 <prometheanfire> only thing I have is the salt thing
20:33:02 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: ya, just today though
20:33:06 <prometheanfire> #link https://review.openstack.org/604386
20:35:14 <prometheanfire> personally I don't like adding something like salt as it seems like we are choosing to support something
20:36:11 <smcginnis> I suppose in this case it is a library being used, so tracking its supported and tested version here is a little different than something like ansible.
20:36:14 <prometheanfire> no one else have opinions?
20:36:14 <smcginnis> *shrug*
20:36:29 <prometheanfire> ya, I can see that, possibly
20:36:56 <prometheanfire> https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/Pipfile#L12 gives a little concern
20:36:57 <dhellmann> I'm not sure I understand your argument, prometheanfire
20:38:14 <prometheanfire> dhellmann: it just reminds me of other times when we've been asked to include libs that choose an implimentation
20:38:58 <prometheanfire> the setup.py is crazy too
20:39:01 <dhellmann> this is something heat needs for an internal driver thing, right?
20:40:46 <dhellmann> it's not like we're saying "openstack is only going to support deployments with salt" we're saying that heat wants to use salt as an implementation detail
20:40:47 <dhellmann> at least that's how I understood it
20:41:15 <prometheanfire> ya, I don't think there's a case to be made based off my 'feeling'
20:41:44 <prometheanfire> anyone have anything else?
20:42:44 <smcginnis> Nope
20:43:01 <prometheanfire> ok
20:43:42 <prometheanfire> #topic open floor
20:44:47 <prometheanfire> only thing I have is that I'm using the reqs tooling downstream for another project now, which is nice
20:45:02 <prometheanfire> ties into the presentation for the summit
20:45:18 <dhellmann> nice
20:45:19 <prometheanfire> will close in a min or two
20:45:26 <prometheanfire> ya, it 'just worked'
20:45:40 <dhellmann> it looks like lots of proposal bot updates failed, are those just flakey tests?
20:46:16 <prometheanfire> testing seems sad today
20:46:20 <prometheanfire> was happier yesterday
20:46:27 <prometheanfire> haven't looked in #-infra
20:47:07 <prometheanfire> will end now
20:47:10 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting