07:11:15 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
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07:11:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
07:11:23 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
07:11:30 <prometheanfire> tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann
07:11:33 <prometheanfire> ing
07:11:36 <prometheanfire> o/
07:11:40 <tonyb> \o
07:12:05 <dirk> o/
07:13:46 <prometheanfire> good nuf
07:13:58 <prometheanfire> #topic bad things
07:14:13 <prometheanfire> tonyb: want to lead? I think your commit message summed it up nicely
07:14:43 <tonyb> https://review.openstack.org/599277
07:15:03 <tonyb> It does bad things and removes networking-odl from g-r for the integration job
07:15:29 <tonyb> we'er still horribly broken (for example propose-updates) isn't working
07:15:35 <tonyb> for the same reason
07:15:47 <dirk> Sigh
07:15:52 <prometheanfire> yep
07:15:53 <prometheanfire> that
07:16:00 <tonyb> I don't like that work around but fixing it correctly is a cross-project thing
07:16:08 <dirk> Who needs opendaylight (warning sarcasm included)
07:16:17 <prometheanfire> dirk: lol
07:16:31 <prometheanfire> dirk: I did suggest removing it til they clean their own house
07:16:35 <dirk> Can we drop ceilometerr from idl?
07:16:38 <dirk> Odl
07:16:42 <tonyb> prometheanfire: said that networking-bgp is the only consumer so if they dropped networking-odl we could also and get things back on track
07:16:52 <tonyb> dirk: I don't think so
07:17:05 <dirk> Why?
07:17:11 <tonyb> we could publisha straw-person revert but I doubt it'll land
07:17:21 <tonyb> dirk: the code's been in there for ages
07:17:30 <tonyb> it isn't like its a recnet feature
07:17:52 <tonyb> I'm pretty sure $comsumers are relying on the agent existing
07:17:57 <prometheanfire> I'm curious how they added it at all
07:18:04 <dirk> Sure, ceilometer itself isn't the new kid on the block
07:18:20 <prometheanfire> don't entries in reqs.txt need to be in global-reqs?
07:18:29 <tonyb> prometheanfire: they added it ages ago and used the well established tox_install from neutron
07:18:30 <dirk> tonyb: 'pretty sure' sounds worth investigating imho
07:18:39 <prometheanfire> ya, right
07:19:02 <tonyb> dirk: it seems not for URL based requirements
07:19:18 <tonyb> dirk: we may have a bug in our tools there but that doesn't help move things forward
07:20:00 <dirk> tonyb: sure, as a stop gap we can get things going for now
07:20:24 <prometheanfire> we should have a bug for the tool not working as expect at the very least
07:20:25 <dirk> Any attempt at a more complete fix will eat more time
07:20:53 <tonyb> dirk: right that's why I've faffed with the hack above
07:22:23 <prometheanfire> how about this order of operations
07:22:29 <prometheanfire> 1. do the hack
07:22:40 <prometheanfire> 2. fix reqs to reject url based reqs
07:22:52 <prometheanfire> 3. make sure odl is fixed
07:22:56 <tonyb> (if it's a bug)
07:22:56 <prometheanfire> 4. undo the hack
07:23:01 <prometheanfire> tonyb: sure
07:23:21 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Yup that's pretty much what we have to do
07:23:50 <tonyb> all of which will be fun during the PTG
07:24:07 <tonyb> prometheanfire: but you can try visiting the neutron room next week
07:24:33 <prometheanfire> I get to play the pixie from zelda
07:24:41 <tonyb> ;p
07:24:57 <prometheanfire> not much diferent than I just got done doing with keystone and nova :P
07:25:29 <prometheanfire> tonyb: mind putting this into a bug just so we don't forget? I'm bedding after this
07:25:42 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Sure but it'll be tomorrow
07:26:54 <prometheanfire> tonyb: eh, ok
07:27:01 <prometheanfire> #topic open floor
07:27:20 <prometheanfire> ptg is next week, I'm not sure we'll be able to do anything more than inpromptu meetings
07:27:49 <tonyb> Yeah it'll be hard to get the 3 TZ awake at the same time
07:29:06 <prometheanfire> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-PTG-requirements
07:29:25 <prometheanfire> dougs thing is the main complex one
07:29:50 <prometheanfire> beyond that, constraints publishing would be nice
07:30:56 <tonyb> Yup I'll ping the infra team PTG is over
07:31:04 <prometheanfire> anyone else have anything else before ending?
07:31:37 <tonyb> not for me
07:32:59 <prometheanfire> k
07:33:02 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting