12:01:22 #startmeeting requirements 12:01:23 Meeting started Wed Sep 6 12:01:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:01:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:01:27 The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 12:01:45 o/ 12:01:52 dirk: dims tonyb toabctl ? 12:02:00 hi 12:02:23 o/ 12:03:14 #topic rollcall 12:03:26 lets do it official :P 12:04:02 hehe 12:05:04 tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis 12:05:27 hi 12:05:38 * prometheanfire needs to be better about copying that 12:06:43 #topic Any controversies in the Queue? 12:07:43 I don't think so. 12:08:09 pyroute2 is annoying, but not controversial 12:08:14 Lots of red from Jenkins 12:09:05 ya, want to try and clean some of that up by the ptg 12:09:28 speaking of... 12:09:32 #topic ptg 12:10:01 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-requirements 12:10:37 I think it's worth spending 20mins to get dirk's g-r cleanups merged during our sessions 12:10:48 I'll send that to the -dev list, but that's our monday/tuesday 12:11:13 ya, can be part of 1.1 12:12:00 tonyb: +1 12:12:01 sure 12:12:16 dirk: I'm sure you love rebasing that :P 12:12:33 yeah, I was wondering whether I should do that once more or whether we want to discuss it first 12:12:38 I'm not sure where we are 12:13:08 the main thing I'd like to see between now and the ptg is a cleanup of the queue, meaning getting rid of some of that red 12:13:32 I think we should semi-freeze on friday as well, since we will all be traveling 12:13:49 dirk: I think we just need to line up the reviews so you can get merged 12:14:51 do we want to discuss diversions from g-r? 12:15:00 there are a couple of projects that are now diverting from g-r partially 12:15:01 how do you mean? 12:15:12 like swift? 12:15:32 I think monasca or designate? basically they have additional deps not in g-r 12:15:47 so they allow them to be used for their own purposes in addition to what comes via g-r 12:16:19 on the one hand this makes coinstallability hard but if we consider it a concept that there is "common stuff" and "extra" deps then the whole mess would maybe be more modular 12:16:28 and it goes into the "divergent requirements" direction as well 12:17:00 If they're managed they can't do that thing. 12:17:02 that seems outside the scopte of divergant requirements 12:17:03 to be honest I don't have a strong opinion about this, as the current state is a million times better than a year ago or so when we started with teh g-r/uc enforcement 12:17:09 tonyb: yep 12:17:38 I think we should talk to them about their situation 12:17:41 tonyb: yeah its a new thing 12:17:53 I think it was a dependency that we rejected 12:17:53 monasca and designate should be end of week I think? 12:18:02 monasca is not at the PTG 12:18:11 I am not sure which project it was, I need to search for it again 12:18:17 Yeha I think we need to make time to talk to them about what they're doing 12:18:38 added to etherpad 12:19:17 dirk: if it is a project other than those two please update the etherpad (number 11 there) 12:19:32 #topic open discussion 12:19:46 I'll try and bug them beforehand as well 12:20:04 cool 12:21:22 gonna give people 1-2 more minutes to speak up 12:21:33 * tonyb doesn 12:21:40 't have anything to discuss really 12:22:30 * dirk neither 12:22:37 I'm in pre-PTG brain freeze 12:22:53 dirk: aren't we all :P 12:22:55 k 12:22:58 #endmeeting