09:30:53 #startmeeting requirements 09:30:54 Meeting started Wed Apr 5 09:30:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:30:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 09:30:57 The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 09:31:08 !topic rollcall 09:31:09 prometheanfire: Error: "topic" is not a valid command. 09:31:14 #topic rollcall 09:31:38 toabctl: tonyb dirk dims ? 09:32:19 o/ 09:32:24 hi 09:34:31 k 09:34:41 #topic controversies in the queue? 09:34:58 eventlet I guess 09:35:17 I know there's eventlet thing 09:35:18 ya 09:35:35 the discussion on the mailing list was inconclusive to me 09:35:46 have a link? it's not showing up in gertty (unless it was abandoned) 09:35:48 so I'm surprised to see dims proposing to not do the eventlet revert and instead drop designate 09:36:00 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448104/ 09:36:01 and 09:36:02 ya, saw that on the list too 09:36:13 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453279/ 09:36:28 I think what we should do is revert eventlet, extend test coverage to cover designate 09:36:37 and then try to work together with them on getting that fixed 09:36:58 the other thing that happened with e.g. networking-odl is that they merged a local overwrite to the global upper-constraints 09:37:09 so they are running their tests against a different upper-constraints file than "ours" 09:37:11 I'd rather just fix designate, but not sure how hard that'd be 09:37:12 which is bad as well 09:37:38 it probably isn't that hard 09:37:40 has anyone talked to them about it? 09:37:57 I didn't 09:38:15 nor I 09:38:21 so we have a number of options 09:38:26 a) just fix the thing 09:38:32 b) give them a local overwrite 09:38:43 c) globally revert and work with them on re-bumping it 09:38:49 d) dropping them from g-r sync 09:38:55 with eventlet? 09:39:22 I think a and c are good options, b and d less so 09:41:27 agreed 09:42:24 a if we can, c if we work with them and it's a bigger / longer issue, d if they are dead (upstream wise), don't think I like b at all 09:42:31 in that order that's what I'd like 09:44:45 anyway, I'll keep an eye on it as I can, but am on vacation for a week. 09:44:48 so... 09:44:59 the action item is to discuss this with dims 09:45:08 he seems to have a different opinion and we need to understand his reasoning 09:45:14 ya, when we can 09:51:50 anything else in the mean time? 09:52:18 want to wait til this would normally start to give people a chance to show 10:00:30 looks like dims got back to us in the other channel :D 10:01:03 prometheanfire : haven't woken up fully yet. back in a bit 10:01:12 dims: how long is a bit? :P 10:02:44 prometheanfire: meeting time is the other favorite topic 10:02:57 I also have the topic of upgrading the nova-func test job to voting 10:03:44 well, let's do the nova-func first 10:04:38 I've notice you mention it a couple of times :P 10:06:56 ? 10:07:38 basically, short summary: we discussed it in atlanta to extend the list of check jobs for upper constraints changes also by running the projects functional tests 10:07:47 the guinea pig for that was nova and it seems to work, but it is currently non-voting 10:07:54 which in the end led to things being merged that broke it 10:08:02 so I would like to propagate it to voting 10:08:05 any objections? 10:08:18 I'd also think about adding further func test jobs then, as a 2nd step 10:08:34 I'm good with making it voting 10:09:29 if it's regularly passing and adds value to our testing and is not an external job, make it vote :D 10:10:23 and the meeting time? 10:10:31 I'm fine with an hour earlier 10:16:59 +1 10:17:12 it seems that would be incompatible with dims 10:17:18 and he's a frequent contributor recently 10:17:25 dims: your input appreciated now :) 10:18:10 +1 to make it voting 10:19:59 dims: and the meeting time? is an hour ago too early? 10:22:53 also, is upstream desigante really dead? 10:23:09 or dead enough to be removed? 10:23:44 if so, a post to the list about it should probably be made, before removal 10:26:11 going to close this in a min if no response, we can discuss this stuff later, I'm dead tired 10:26:37 prometheanfire : it's 6:30 AM for me right now :) 10:26:47 prometheanfire : yes it is 10:27:17 it's 5:30 for me 10:27:24 prometheanfire : did you see monty and me posting to ML about designate? 10:27:26 and I've been up since yesterday :P 10:27:32 LOL 10:27:36 go get some sleep :) 10:27:47 i need to wake up kids for school 10:28:15 oh, guess they are tagged in that thread 10:29:22 prometheanfire: ok, lets end the meeting 10:29:30 and have some sleep 10:29:57 #endmeeting