12:00:18 #startmeeting requirements 12:00:19 Meeting started Wed Sep 21 12:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 12:00:27 #topic rollcall 12:00:37 o/ 12:00:41 * tonyb waves at coolsvap 12:00:48 and dirk 12:00:53 o/ 12:01:03 hello tonyb o/ 12:01:14 hello dirk o/ 12:01:15 :) 12:02:36 I'm not sure we'll get prometheanfire today 12:02:47 so it make just be the 3 of us ... 12:03:27 #topic Any controversies in the Queue? 12:03:36 yes i think he's not well 12:03:36 anyone? 12:03:48 hi 12:03:51 Oh speak of prometheanfire ;P 12:04:02 ... in a good way 12:04:09 prometheanfire: hey 12:04:44 So anything open on master we need to talk about? 12:04:45 we have merged lot of things today 12:04:52 nothing that i am aware of 12:05:03 coolsvap: Yeah quite a few things :) 12:05:43 There is a potential FFE/Backport coming for python-heatclient but I don't have a lot of information there. 12:06:33 The generate-constraints update is very red :( 12:06:52 which probably isn't surprising after so long not merging it ... it's a big one 12:08:20 do we want to split it a bit? 12:08:23 Does anyone have time to break it up into smaller chunks to get some of it merged? 12:08:31 dirk: snap ... sort of 12:09:04 how do I do that? 12:09:15 I can spend a bit of time on it I guess 12:10:10 dirk: I'd certinaly remove anythign that we have another chnage ie tenacity, gabbi etc 12:10:24 o/ 12:10:38 and anything openstack (tripleo-common. DIB) 12:10:48 and then see what the gate looks like 12:11:17 it's fairly new so we have ~20 hours to get it into a mergable state before it get clobbered 12:11:34 tonyb: ok, I'll give it a shot. I'll first remove the openstack bits 12:11:41 the error message about missing yaml doesn't make entire sense to me 12:11:47 dirk: Thanks. 12:11:53 I won't have time to split it like I normally do today, busy day 12:13:00 prometheanfire: Will you have time to take a look at it if dirk does the splitting? 12:14:06 ofc 12:14:22 prometheanfire: dirk: cool thanks. 12:14:44 Hmm this is second time I've seen that the infra mirrors are out of sync with pypi :( 12:15:25 moving on? 12:15:48 +1 12:15:59 yes 12:16:05 #topic Master is open 12:16:18 hurray 12:16:21 Well I guess that isn't really a topic as such and we kinda covered it 12:17:06 We merged a lot today but I'd like to be a little more sedate for the next few days if we can do that ... 12:17:17 I know it's hard when we've accumulated a backlog 12:18:01 #topic Barcelona Design Summit 12:18:12 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-ocata-summit_ideas 12:18:18 Please put your ideas in there 12:18:30 I think lower bounds testsing is going to be a big push 12:18:57 yep, that's the big thing I'd like to see this cycle at least 12:19:08 We have one session which is Thur 3:30-4:10 ATM 12:19:43 prometheanfire: dhellmann has some ideas that I'm trying to digest. 12:20:28 I was going for a much smaller increment than his suggestion ... but we can aim high ;P 12:20:32 ya, we talked about it a few days ago, between the bug and the two etherpads there are a good amount of ideas 12:20:48 tonyb: I am personally a big fan of aim low and iterate fast :) 12:20:56 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/1623571 12:20:57 Launchpad bug 1623571 in OpenStack Global Requirements "lower-constraints blueprint idea dumping ground" [Undecided,New] 12:20:59 dirk: :) 12:21:01 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-requirements-notes 12:21:12 one etherpad, not two 12:21:31 prometheanfire: Thanks. I hadn't seen that bug 12:21:34 dirk: I personally like that too, if that method is appropriate 12:23:55 The idea of mixing lower-constraints with relaxed requirements management (divergent management?) is the thing that concerens me 12:24:29 rigth now I think of them differently the aim of both is being more user friendly but .... 12:24:50 anyway I need to make some time to ride a bike and thing about them befoer Barcelona 12:25:42 ya, the combined method can still be devided up though 12:26:14 anyway, stuff to think and talk about 12:26:21 prometheanfire: sure, as long as the endgame is aligned 12:26:25 #topic Tasks from Etherpad 12:26:40 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks 12:28:35 Nothing more to say there really. I think we can move the "spin out team" item to done (and just leave a new item for define electorate 12:28:37 no update 12:28:54 that sounds good 12:29:08 I'm pretty sure item 1 is done also 12:29:24 with the py27-with-constraints job 12:29:52 perhaps there is a need to extend that out to py35 12:30:58 #topic Open Discussion 12:31:10 go forth and discuss openly .... 12:31:53 * dirk opens up 12:32:44 :) 12:34:25 seriously, I have no topics right now. 12:34:41 ya, me neither 12:34:42 so odyssey4me is asking for reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373192/ 12:34:57 that's abut all I have .... 12:35:23 ah, didn't look at that 12:35:55 Yeah I sware it wasn't there today when I thought I reviewed everythign open on master 12:36:26 anyway I think we're done for this meeting 12:36:57 yep 12:37:09 we can chat in #openstack-requirements or sleep or drink whatever you like 12:37:15 Thanks all 12:37:18 #endmeeting