12:00:54 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
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12:00:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
12:01:04 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
12:01:09 <coolsvap> o/
12:02:08 <tonyb> o/
12:02:10 <prometheanfire> a couple of minutes in case anyone else decides to join
12:04:52 <dirk> o/
12:05:43 <prometheanfire> ok
12:05:49 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
12:06:32 <prometheanfire> tonyb: I see you 'solved the keystone finds
12:07:05 <tonyb> prometheanfire: sloved is one word for it.
12:07:15 <prometheanfire> :D
12:07:38 <tonyb> the keysyoneauth (ksa) one is better in ocata, and then backported as needed
12:07:51 <tonyb> the keystonemiddleware (ksm) is just too late
12:07:58 <tonyb> we need to take it on the chin
12:08:03 <tonyb> same with oslo.log
12:08:25 <tonyb> it gives us strong motivation to fix lower bounds testsing
12:08:30 <dirk> yep
12:08:39 <prometheanfire> ya, both of those (oslo.log and keystonemiddleware)'s timeing sucked
12:08:51 <prometheanfire> anything else?
12:09:25 <dirk> next
12:09:41 <tonyb> not from me .. FFEs really are the queue this week :(
12:09:59 <prometheanfire> #topic Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02)
12:10:06 <prometheanfire> #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html
12:10:18 <prometheanfire> it's now the 14th
12:10:57 <tonyb> prometheanfire: sure, those dates don't cover the duration of the freeze only indicatede when it shoudl start
12:11:00 <prometheanfire> tonyb: do we have a date for branching?
12:11:06 <prometheanfire> I'm guessing rc1s?
12:11:18 <tonyb> prometheanfire: we have to be last so just after the rest are done
12:11:22 <prometheanfire> ya
12:11:31 <prometheanfire> was just wondering how much longer that was :P
12:11:37 <tonyb> probabaly early next week
12:12:02 <prometheanfire> k
12:12:33 <prometheanfire> k
12:12:37 <prometheanfire> moving on
12:12:41 <tonyb> we're starting to see RC1 requests come through ...
12:13:03 <prometheanfire> #topic Barcelona Design Summit
12:13:07 <prometheanfire> tonyb: updates?
12:13:29 <tonyb> We have one fishbowel session and a shared meetup with releases
12:13:45 <tonyb> now we need to set an agend for the fishbowl session
12:13:49 <prometheanfire> anyone other than tonyb going?
12:14:03 * coolsvap going
12:14:06 <tonyb> prometheanfire: yeah a few people are
12:14:10 <prometheanfire> good
12:14:11 <tonyb> coolsvap: is speaking
12:14:19 <tonyb> (about requirements)
12:14:28 <prometheanfire> even better
12:14:30 <prometheanfire> link?
12:14:42 <tonyb> prometheanfire: I don't have one
12:14:54 <tonyb> coolsvap: has mentioned it a couple of times
12:15:05 <prometheanfire> k
12:15:09 <tonyb> it'll be in the logs
12:15:10 <prometheanfire> anything else?
12:15:11 <coolsvap> https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15330/openstack-requirements-what-we-are-doing-what-to-expect-and-whats-next
12:15:23 <prometheanfire> ah, right
12:15:34 <prometheanfire> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15330/openstack-requirements-what-we-are-doing-what-to-expect-and-whats-next
12:16:23 <prometheanfire> #topic Tasks from Etherpad
12:16:28 <prometheanfire> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks
12:16:55 <prometheanfire> I finished projects that aren't getting updates
12:17:05 <prometheanfire> moved it to complete (7)
12:17:33 <tonyb> prometheanfire: \o/
12:17:36 <dirk> prometheanfire++
12:17:45 <coolsvap> prometheanfire: (y)
12:18:19 <prometheanfire> next?
12:18:39 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Yup
12:18:43 <prometheanfire> Open Discussion
12:18:47 <prometheanfire> #topic Open Discussion
12:19:28 <coolsvap> I saw some discussion/review related to lower bounds
12:19:55 <coolsvap> any updates related to it?
12:20:35 <prometheanfire> I know tony has his test review up
12:20:41 <prometheanfire> hackish hack that it is
12:20:43 <tonyb> coolsvap: I have a tool that generates a "modified" g-r that you can then use to build a constraints file
12:21:17 <tonyb> I found some really low hanging fruit that we can use to clean things up
12:21:42 <tonyb> The big challenge is actually testing it and make it possible for project teams to test it themselves
12:22:09 <tonyb> once we get it (lower-constraints.txt) it'll be pretty static (unles we find bugs)
12:22:32 <tonyb> It'll be a reasonable chunk of slow work for the ocata cycle
12:23:37 <prometheanfire> yarp
12:23:45 <prometheanfire> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1605629 was just reported btw
12:23:46 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1605629 in Ironic "AttributeError: 'Timer' object has no attribute '__code__' (requires pecan > 1.0.2)" [Low,Incomplete]
12:23:47 <tonyb> coolsvap: does that answer you questions?
12:23:50 <coolsvap> thanks tonyb for the update. I think I read on the review its targeted in Newton or something so just wanted to get updates
12:24:34 <prometheanfire> that's another gr bump requested
12:24:48 <tonyb> coolsvap: No targetted at Ocata not newton
12:25:16 <tonyb> Why is everyone testing lower bounds NOW?
12:25:52 <prometheanfire> I don't know :(
12:26:15 <tonyb> Well we'll have to make it better for Ocata+
12:26:33 <prometheanfire> yes
12:26:42 <prometheanfire> should we talk about that one now?
12:26:47 <tonyb> we can't backport to stable/* as it'd violoate the policy :(
12:26:58 <tonyb> prometheanfire: the pecan bug?
12:27:43 <prometheanfire> ya
12:27:47 <prometheanfire> http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=pecan&i=nope&files=requirements.txt&repos= nothing too bad
12:28:01 <prometheanfire> tonyb: can we backport the oslo.log one?
12:28:14 <prometheanfire> I thought that was a gr change as well
12:28:25 <prometheanfire> >=4.2.0 instead of 4.0.0
12:28:26 <tonyb> prometheanfire: No oslo.log once can't be backported
12:29:33 <prometheanfire> yep
12:30:40 <prometheanfire> guess now would be a good time to summarize a list of existing things that need backporting
12:30:54 <prometheanfire> tonyb: not sure if you maintian a list, just your starred?
12:32:17 <tonyb> prometheanfire: no starred was things that needed to be an FFE I'll worry abotu backports next week
12:32:25 <prometheanfire> k
12:32:41 <prometheanfire> well, I know it's early, but I'm out of topics :D
12:32:43 <tonyb> if it works for me to star them as a way to communicate them I can do that.
12:32:52 <tonyb> I dont' think there's that much stuff to backport
12:33:01 <prometheanfire> so unless anyone speaks up...
12:33:21 <prometheanfire> tonyb: I was thinking it'd be good if we had a way to syncronize across time zones is all
12:33:23 * tonyb would not object to an early night ;P
12:33:41 <prometheanfire> star after branching?
12:34:21 <tonyb> prometheanfire: If that works for y'all it's pretty easy for me and very queryablr for y'all
12:35:38 <prometheanfire> k
12:36:19 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting