12:00:27 #startmeeting requirements 12:00:28 Meeting started Wed Jul 13 12:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:00:31 The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 12:00:45 #rollcall 12:01:03 #topic rollcall 12:01:18 it's still early :D 12:02:53 anyone else here? 12:03:06 tonyb prometheanfire number80 sigmavirus dims coreycb dirk? 12:03:12 o/ 12:03:30 o/ 12:04:17 I'll give it a couple more minutes to be sure it's just us 12:04:40 wc 12:07:57 #topic Controversies in the Queue 12:08:23 anyone have anything before I bring up two things? 12:09:15 * dirk is good 12:10:14 #link https://review.openstack.org/337782 12:11:03 oslo.utils thing again for liberty, looks like we are just waiting for the stable-maint team to give the final ok, *cough tony cough* 12:11:50 well, it's a good compromise 12:12:14 (is the second thing about monasca recent changesets?) 12:12:32 ya, but those were abandoned 12:12:33 oh, they abandonned 12:12:47 well, I hope they'll bring their topics on the list 12:13:20 they tried to add a bunch of things that duplicated functionality, tornado and the like, I hope they bring them up on the list as well 12:13:24 anyone else? 12:13:51 I'm good, I recommend that another core +2 the ryu backport 12:13:59 erm downgrade 12:14:09 #topic optional requirements 12:14:24 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/optional-requirements-draft 12:14:29 thanks 12:14:45 Well, now it mostly boils down to define what optional exactly is 12:14:46 I forget who was working on it primarily, but I left a couple of comments in the etherpad 12:14:52 o/ 12:15:39 well, my PoV was that g-r was the set of dependencies required to run a complete OpenStack cloud + big tent projects 12:16:04 optionals are dependencies that are nice to have, but not strictly required 12:16:37 required to run is the question, monasca would say that their json parser is required, given the speed it offers 12:16:56 json parser speed is not really a requirement 12:17:14 optional could be for features as well, only activated upon specific config options 12:17:18 monasca is likely to work fine with existing json 12:17:20 yup 12:17:35 they may argue otherwise :P not to put words in their mouths 12:17:50 but only those two cases 12:17:55 I don't want to prevent projects to have such dependencies but they should try to run with trimmed g-r 12:18:18 would os-win fall under this? 12:18:30 it would encourage people to use compat layer like anyjson or add one in oslo 12:18:53 if we support windows platform, it should be in g-r 12:19:01 though, I personally think otherwise :) 12:19:10 s/otherwise/differently/ 12:19:17 neutron plugins maybe then 12:19:25 Yes 12:20:30 I added a section to that etherpad with examples 12:20:37 excellent 12:20:38 anything else for this? 12:20:58 Well, we need more input from other contributors before next step 12:21:15 ya, but only one other person is around lol 12:21:20 yup 12:21:37 that means they trust us with important decisions :) 12:22:10 and leave us with the work :P 12:22:16 next? 12:22:49 #topic tasks from etherpad 12:22:58 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks 12:23:52 not much going on for me with looking at more encompassing gating, but should have time 'soon' 12:25:31 not much else going on with those of us that are here, but we should generally be looking at upper-caps in g-r and specifically on psutil 12:25:56 nothing else for that topic? 12:26:13 yes, psutil case is tricky 12:26:41 (no, nothing else for the topic) 12:27:01 ok 12:27:08 #topic Volunteer for next 2 meetings 12:27:17 coreycb is running the meeting on 20 July 12:27:43 number80: want to run a meeting? 12:27:46 dirk: how about you? 12:27:55 next week works for me 12:28:00 ok 12:28:20 added to the list 12:28:23 #topic open discussion 12:28:26 prometheanfire: I can do 27th 12:28:46 number80: this was for the 27th 12:29:09 dirk: that's good if number80 can't do it, otherwise you get it 12:29:30 wfm 12:29:43 dirk: you can take the 27th 12:29:50 ok 12:30:14 so, how is everyone? 12:30:15 end of month and first week of august, I'm travelling in eastern europe 12:30:49 nice 12:31:00 * dirk is knee deep under water preparing a few talks/demos 12:31:17 one thing: do we want to submit a talk ? today is the last day for CfP 12:31:22 for openstack summit barcelona 12:31:55 I'm not going to be able to go, have to be at a wedding the same week 12:32:12 and I HAVE to be at that 12:32:18 a talk would be good 12:32:41 just a general status update, I'd be able to remote in if the internet is good :P 12:32:57 dirk: how about a lightning talk? 12:33:18 prometheanfire: so you're participating in the wedding? 12:33:24 congratulations :) 12:33:33 ya, best mad, brother's wedding 12:33:39 ah, ok 12:33:52 well, best mad works too lol 12:34:01 number80: is the CFP also for lightning talks? 12:34:13 I am not sure if we'd be for the general tracks anyway or more for the design summit 12:34:24 I guess design summit might get some attendance 12:34:35 ya, definitely design 12:34:48 I think the CFP deadline is only for general track 12:34:55 dirk: nope, directly managed by thingee 12:35:09 we should definitely submit something though 12:35:36 if you want to submit a talk in general track, you should do it but I'm not very optimistic about its chances 12:36:05 * dirk does not really want more work :) 12:36:13 ya, dev track is what I'd prefer 12:36:26 dirk: you need an excuse :P 12:39:24 I don't think I can submit it since I won't be giving it, but we should definitely submit one for the dev track 12:39:42 also, we probably need to do the ptl thing 12:41:10 coolsvap and tonyb would be my nominations, though I know tonyb is already ptl of at least one other project 12:41:12 maybe 12:41:32 yeah, coolsvap is most active right now, he'd get my vote 12:41:56 well, depends on the other candidates of course ;) 12:42:04 * dirk needs delete-last-statement in irc 12:42:11 maybe a topic for the next meeting, where we have more attendance :P 12:43:28 anyway, I'll try and find out if we need to submit the talk today for the dev track and also bring up the ptl thing, at least with tonyb when I see him later today (coworker) 12:43:37 anything else before I end this? 12:45:51 well, you get 15 minutes back 12:45:54 #endmeeting