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14:00:08 <elodilles> o/
14:00:13 <hberaud> Ping list: elod frickler
14:00:19 <hberaud> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-relmgt-tracking
14:00:29 <hberaud> meet you at line 208 ^
14:00:32 <ttx> o/
14:00:44 <hberaud> #topic Review task completion
14:00:48 <frickler> \o
14:00:54 <hberaud> Review any remaining milestone-2 exceptions
14:01:03 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:caracal-milestone-2
14:01:08 <hberaud> everything is done
14:01:21 <hberaud> 2) Plan the next release cycle schedule, thanks elodilles
14:01:34 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/906050 ttx and myself sent comments
14:01:43 <hberaud> elodilles: Do you want to add something?
14:01:47 <ttx> I think the 6-7-8 version is a strong contender
14:01:54 <hberaud> yep
14:01:56 <ttx> Let's see if it passes the community test
14:02:23 <elodilles> thanks for the reviews o/
14:02:40 <elodilles> maybe we can share it via the release countdown mail?
14:02:48 <hberaud> good idea
14:02:48 <elodilles> or should i send a separate mail?
14:02:58 <hberaud> but we have no mail this weel
14:03:00 <hberaud> week
14:03:11 <elodilles> ok, then i'll send a mail :D
14:03:11 <ttx> separate mail it is!
14:03:15 <elodilles> :)
14:03:23 <elodilles> easy as that
14:03:25 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
14:03:53 <elodilles> np :)
14:03:59 <hberaud> 3) create patches with 'abandoned' flag against monasca, sahara, freezer and solum
14:04:27 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:relmgt-inactive-projects
14:04:44 <hberaud> will double check these patches after the meeting
14:05:19 <elodilles> i think this is the right way: to remove them (and not mark them as abandoned)
14:05:24 <hberaud> thanks again elodilles
14:05:27 <elodilles> np
14:05:30 <hberaud> yes
14:05:47 <hberaud> next topic
14:05:52 <hberaud> #topic Assign R-10 tasks
14:06:21 <hberaud> everything is no assigned
14:06:44 <hberaud> #topic Open Discussion
14:06:49 <hberaud> s/no/now
14:07:20 <ttx> I marked meeting in two weeks as skipped
14:07:28 <hberaud> We have a question from rosmaita
14:07:34 <elodilles> ttx: +1 sounds good
14:07:40 <hberaud> He is not around
14:07:44 <ttx> (won;t be around and it seemed not necessary)
14:08:28 <hberaud> Where have you seen that? There => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/897505 ?
14:08:51 <hberaud> (it seemed not necessary)
14:09:06 <ttx> I was talking about the meeting in two weeks
14:09:17 <hberaud> ok
14:09:42 <frickler> iiuc the idea about the p-t-g patch was just for (some of) you to review as a sanity check
14:10:25 <fungi> though also there are deep links from the releases site which may need fixing when that merges?
14:11:31 <frickler> ah, yes, maybe someone can check that, too. I also made a mental note that the linked tempest doc about stable branch handling will need updating
14:11:44 <ttx> reading
14:12:04 <fungi> at first skim it's only linking to the maintenance-phases target which i don't think is changing, so probably fine
14:12:56 <hberaud> maybe some changes are required there https://releases.openstack.org/reference/using.html#tools-list-eol-stale-branches-sh
14:13:03 <hberaud> and surely elsewhere
14:13:36 <elodilles> hberaud: yepp, thanks for mentioning it, i'm planning to propose update to that ^^^
14:14:26 <frickler> some related question from me would be, now that the tooling changes have been merged and (mostly?) tested, how does your schedule look like for actually moving yoga to unmaintained? do you have some idea about that yet? in the etherpad I see that the umaintaining of zed is also drawing nearer
14:14:30 <fungi> good find, i only looked at the main page
14:16:01 <elodilles> frickler: i can propose now EOM tagging for all the yoga deliverables and add unmaintained/<yoga> from that point,
14:16:23 <elodilles> one question is that should we do it via a single huge patch,
14:16:35 <elodilles> or propose them per team?
14:16:51 <hberaud> I'd suggest by team
14:17:01 <frickler> a single patch would avoid having discussions with each team
14:17:07 <elodilles> hberaud: i also tend to that direction
14:17:27 <frickler> is there actually team feedback involved?
14:17:58 <frickler> but also it would likely make management like abandoning changes easier to do it in peaces, so I'm not objecting this
14:18:08 <frickler> pieces even
14:18:16 <elodilles> frickler: yes, that's why i was thinking on it, though it would have a bigger impact on zuul as it would start massive amount of tagging and branch cutting
14:18:37 * frickler loves stress testing zuul ;)
14:18:40 <elodilles> :D
14:19:03 <hberaud> IMO it would be more easier to manage this topic by piece
14:19:09 <elodilles> well, i'm sure zuul could handle that :)
14:20:02 <frickler> anyway, if the planned schedule more or less is "right now", I'm happy with that
14:21:06 <elodilles> frickler: yes, we can do that right away, though the branch deletion script needs an update before we can use it with EOM tags
14:22:00 <elodilles> anyway, I'll propose then yoga-eom tagging patches per team as a next step
14:22:07 <frickler> is there some automation for abandoning patches btw.? it might be friendly to abandon them with a note that they can be reproposed against unmaintained/yoga if needed
14:22:13 <elodilles> is that OK? ^^^
14:22:31 <frickler> fine for me
14:22:56 <elodilles> i know that some folks has a nice script for that
14:23:05 <elodilles> though i don't have that script
14:23:27 <frickler> but would you expect projects to do that or is that a release team task?
14:24:34 <frickler> I know there is some script in the neutron repo for auto-abandoning old reviews, one might be able to adopt that
14:25:26 <elodilles> (I quickly checked, less than 150 patches are open against 'project:^openstack/.* branch:stable/yoga')
14:25:52 <elodilles> frickler: i can do it
14:26:01 <frickler> saying "less than" sounds like you consider that to be manageable manually? ;)
14:26:19 <elodilles> i'll look for the script
14:26:23 <elodilles> of course :D
14:26:55 <frickler> tools/abandon_old_reviews.sh in openstack/neutron
14:27:07 <elodilles> ahh, there it is!
14:27:08 <elodilles> thanks :)
14:27:24 <elodilles> i'll taylor that to our case then :)
14:29:13 <hberaud> Anything else.
14:29:14 <hberaud> ?
14:29:53 <elodilles> nothing else from me for now
14:30:07 <hberaud> then I think we are done
14:30:11 <hberaud> thanks everyone
14:30:23 <hberaud> #endmeeting