14:00:04 <hberaud> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:00:10 <hberaud> Ping list: elod
14:00:28 <hberaud> we are now at line 73 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-relmgt-tracking
14:01:16 <elodilles> o/
14:02:16 <hberaud> let's go
14:02:25 <hberaud> #topic Review task completion
14:02:33 <hberaud> 1) Ensure that all trailing projects have been branched for the previous series.
14:02:40 <hberaud> only remains trailing deliverables
14:02:50 <hberaud> so I think this task is ok
14:03:27 <elodilles> the task says we should propose branching patches
14:03:55 <hberaud> you sent an email last week about trailing deliverables and the deadline is in 1 month
14:03:58 <elodilles> though we have time until the trailing release
14:04:05 <elodilles> yepp
14:04:10 <hberaud> so this is why I didn't proposed patches
14:04:33 <elodilles> i don't remember whether they usually propose RC patches, or directly release
14:04:49 <hberaud> IIRC some propose RC
14:05:13 <hberaud> depending on the type of the deliverable
14:05:41 <hberaud> I don't think cinderlib will propose a RC
14:05:58 <elodilles> yepp, that is a cwi deliverable
14:06:04 <hberaud> yes
14:06:08 <elodilles> OK
14:06:15 <elodilles> let's just wait then :)
14:06:16 <hberaud> 2) Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries which did not release since the previous release.
14:06:31 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:caracal-milestone-1
14:07:17 <hberaud> I don't think we should force a release for deliverables without PTL responses
14:07:18 <elodilles> ~half have merged already \o/
14:07:58 <elodilles> hmm, don't we do that for Milestone-1 release? :-o
14:08:26 <elodilles> the process says: "On the Friday, merge patches that did not get any feedback from PTL or release liaison. Discuss standing -1s to see if they should be granted an exception and wait until next week."
14:08:31 <hberaud> IIRC usually M1 is more a conveniance milestone that a deadline milestone
14:08:42 <elodilles> https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#milestone-1
14:09:02 <hberaud> ok
14:09:06 <hberaud> then...
14:09:12 <elodilles> yeah, it is true, that not mandatory, but where there are any change, maybe better to release
14:09:28 <elodilles> (* any functional change)
14:09:49 <hberaud> WFM
14:09:56 <hberaud> let me push the button
14:10:13 <elodilles> i've reviewed the patches without response and i think they are all OK to release
14:10:39 <elodilles> i did not find any patch which shouldn't be released (e.g. no functional changes)
14:10:52 <hberaud> ok
14:10:55 <elodilles> hberaud: +1
14:11:07 <hberaud> I'll +W them at the end of our meeting
14:11:25 <elodilles> ++
14:11:33 <elodilles> thanks for proposing the patches o/
14:11:33 <hberaud> 3) To catch if there are acl issues in newly created repositories, run tools/aclissues.py to detect potential leftovers in Gerrit ACLs...
14:11:37 <hberaud> np
14:12:06 <hberaud> so, as with previous series, only ironic deliverables are listed by the acl tooling, I think we can safely ignore them as ironic because they are surely related to project-config changes similar to https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/commit
14:12:16 <hberaud> thoughts?
14:12:34 <elodilles> that reminds me:
14:12:46 <elodilles> ttx has a patch that we should review: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/899585
14:12:50 <elodilles> o:)
14:13:29 <elodilles> nevertheless, the task LGTM
14:13:31 <hberaud> indeed
14:13:55 <hberaud> ok, then next topic
14:14:01 <hberaud> #topic Agree on future meeting skips...
14:14:38 <hberaud> So, you propose to skip R-19, isn't?
14:15:18 <elodilles> wasn't me, but we can skip if there's nothing to discuss there :)
14:15:41 <hberaud> ttx: ^?
14:16:34 <hberaud> skips LGTM
14:17:12 <hberaud> ok to skip R-18,17,15,14
14:17:43 <hberaud> #topic Assign R-19 week tasks
14:18:15 <elodilles> well, we don't have any milestone-1 exception
14:18:25 <elodilles> so we are ready with the task o:)
14:18:31 <hberaud> anyone volunteer to chair the next meeting?
14:18:41 <elodilles> which one is the next then?
14:19:01 <hberaud> next week, as we have things to assign for next next weeks
14:19:12 <hberaud> IIUC
14:19:41 <hberaud> or we assign all the things now
14:19:54 <hberaud> and we also skip next week, as you want
14:19:59 <elodilles> let's do that!
14:21:30 <elodilles> OK, so which is the next meeting then? o:)
14:21:40 <hberaud> R-13
14:21:43 <elodilles> maybe we could have a short meeting @ R-18
14:21:46 <hberaud> Jan 1-5
14:21:51 <ttx> uh, wrong timing
14:21:55 <hberaud> as you want
14:21:55 <elodilles> i can chair that
14:21:59 <hberaud> ok
14:22:04 <ttx> Hi!
14:22:11 <hberaud> yo ttx
14:22:19 <elodilles> hi ttx o/
14:22:34 <elodilles> so next meeting is in 2 weeks
14:22:36 <ttx> Yeah I was proposing we skip some of the next meetings, but since then /someone/ did add tasks :)
14:22:38 <fungi> dst changes claim another victim
14:22:49 <hberaud> lol
14:22:50 <elodilles> :D
14:23:09 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
14:23:15 <elodilles> np o/
14:23:37 <hberaud> I think we are now good with our agenda
14:23:44 <elodilles> \o/
14:24:17 <ttx> OK with skippnig R-17 and R-15
14:24:42 <elodilles> +1
14:24:50 <ttx> and R-19
14:25:05 <hberaud> +1
14:25:13 <elodilles> +1
14:25:34 <hberaud> and the next milestone is at R-12
14:25:39 <elodilles> also OK with R-14
14:25:41 <ttx> ack
14:26:24 <hberaud> and the agenda seems sync with our process until M2
14:26:35 <ttx> yeah i filled it out
14:26:44 <hberaud> after that point we have to fulfil the next weeks
14:26:45 <ttx> (except trailing stuff that someone else added
14:27:08 <hberaud> ok
14:27:13 <elodilles> yeah it was missing, so i added it o:)
14:27:44 <hberaud> then I think we move on
14:27:46 <ttx> Took over a task from you. If you want me to chair one of the upcoming meetings lmk
14:27:56 <hberaud> ack
14:28:06 <hberaud> s/can/
14:28:32 <hberaud> #topic Review countdown email
14:28:44 <hberaud> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:28:51 <elodilles> ttx: R-13 is free o:)
14:29:22 <hberaud> we should notice that no goal page is available (as with bobcat, antelope, etc) should we update the template of this email?
14:29:28 <ttx> Looks good to me!
14:29:48 <hberaud> (to drop the goal section)
14:30:03 <elodilles> hberaud: yes, i remember that that changed some time ago
14:30:31 <hberaud> ok, then I'll propose a patch
14:30:41 <elodilles> +1
14:31:06 <elodilles> about the mail: i've fixed some nits & LGTM
14:31:44 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
14:31:55 <elodilles> np
14:32:50 <hberaud> sent
14:33:02 <elodilles> ~o~
14:33:15 <hberaud> #topic Open Discussion
14:33:17 <fungi> you presumably saw the notice from opendevstatus scroll by a few minutes ago, but just a reminder, gerrit is being upgraded shortly (15:30 utc), not that you generally approve release requests on fridays anyway
14:33:36 <elodilles> well
14:33:45 <hberaud> ok
14:33:50 <elodilles> Caracal-1 patches are on the queue to +W
14:34:01 <elodilles> so we should not +W them then
14:34:04 <elodilles> hberaud: ^^^
14:34:19 <hberaud> ack
14:34:52 <hberaud> anything else?
14:34:56 <elodilles> i can do that after the gerrit upgrade, or on Monday then. which do we prefer?
14:35:15 <hberaud> as you want...
14:35:33 <hberaud> after the upgrade...
14:35:38 <elodilles> +1
14:35:51 <elodilles> thanks fungi for notifying us
14:36:04 <fungi> yw
14:36:11 <elodilles> maybe 1 thing to mention:
14:36:27 <elodilles> about the new unmaintained process
14:36:46 <elodilles> i've volunteered to implement some automation for the transition
14:37:17 <elodilles> so such patches might arrive on your gerrit inbox o:)
14:37:27 <hberaud> let me know if you need some help
14:37:42 <elodilles> hberaud: ack, thanks in advance!
14:38:13 <elodilles> that's all from me for now
14:38:17 <hberaud> then I think we are done
14:38:23 <elodilles> ++
14:38:27 <hberaud> thanks everyone
14:38:33 <elodilles> thanks hberaud o/
14:38:34 <hberaud> #endmeeting