14:00:13 <elodilles> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:00:21 <elodilles> Ping list: elodilles armstrong
14:00:30 <hberaud> o/
14:00:49 <elodilles> note that today we are holding the meeting instead of Friday due to i'll be absent tomorrow
14:00:52 <elodilles> o/
14:01:03 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/bobcat-relmgt-tracking
14:01:25 <elodilles> we are way down @ L286
14:02:06 <elodilles> ttx is OoO all week, so let's not wait for him
14:02:14 <elodilles> and let's start!
14:02:29 <elodilles> #topic eview R-12 and R-10 task completion
14:02:36 <elodilles> #undo
14:02:36 <opendevmeet> Removing item from minutes: #topic eview R-12 and R-10 task completion
14:02:40 <elodilles> #topic Review R-12 and R-10 task completion
14:03:11 <elodilles> 1st task from R-12: 'Review any remaining milestone-2 exceptions (all)'
14:03:22 <elodilles> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-milestone-2+is:open+project:openstack/releases
14:03:47 <elodilles> list is empty so we've processed all patches!
14:03:49 <hberaud> no changes
14:03:55 <hberaud> \o/
14:03:55 <elodilles> yepp
14:04:23 <elodilles> 2nd task from R-12: 'Plan the next release cycle schedule (ttx)'
14:04:41 <hberaud> are you you are on the right week?
14:04:41 <elodilles> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/888942
14:04:47 <hberaud> sure
14:05:31 <hberaud> we are at R-10
14:05:39 <elodilles> hberaud: R-12 week, did i miss something?
14:06:04 <hberaud> ah sorry I missed that we skipped this meeting
14:06:09 <hberaud> my bad
14:06:28 <elodilles> no problem :) we have to review R-12 AND R-10 as well :)
14:06:58 <elodilles> so ttx proposed 2024.1 Caracal release schedule (see above)
14:07:21 <elodilles> btw, we have the name of the new series \o/
14:07:50 <elodilles> anyway, back to the topic
14:08:12 <elodilles> so the planned schedule is there, and i've sent a mail before the meeting to ML as well:
14:08:17 <elodilles> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034555.html
14:09:12 <elodilles> i guess we need to wait for some responses/reviews and if the schedule is OK to everyone then we can merge it
14:10:12 <elodilles> (we already reviewed it, and for us it looks good)
14:10:33 <elodilles> that's all about the tasks of week R-12
14:10:46 <elodilles> now comes R-10 week's task
14:10:48 <elodilles> s
14:11:15 <elodilles> 1st task from R-10: 'Generate a list of intermediary-released service deliverables that have not done a release in this cycle yet and propose release model change for them (hberaud)'
14:11:30 <hberaud> so
14:11:44 <hberaud> from the list
14:12:05 <hberaud> I think only python-openstackclient and swift could be good clients
14:12:08 <hberaud> thoughts?
14:12:55 <hberaud> as I said I don't think we want to move ironic deliverables as they follow their own cadence
14:13:10 <hberaud> and requirements should be ignored
14:13:30 <elodilles> looking at the list of deliverables they are the usual ones (ironic, swift, even the python-openstackclient was there time to time)
14:13:42 <hberaud> yeah
14:13:45 <elodilles> (ironic* deliverables)
14:14:52 <elodilles> so probably we don't need to change any of these to cycle-with-rc
14:15:06 <hberaud> +1
14:15:32 <elodilles> anyway, the countdown mail's topic is mostly about this, so we can rephrase the mail a bit and list these deliverables
14:15:41 <elodilles> is that OK?
14:15:47 <hberaud> LGTM
14:16:04 <elodilles> OK, then let's handle this at the mail review
14:16:12 <elodilles> good
14:16:19 <elodilles> next task then
14:16:39 <elodilles> 2nd task from R-10: 'Propose convenience releases for Yoga to ease the transition of Yoga to Extended Maintenance and avoid rush and broken releases when the transition deadline is coming (hberaud)'
14:16:52 <elodilles> patches were proposed: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:yoga-convenience-before-em
14:16:55 <elodilles> thanks hberaud o/
14:17:13 <hberaud> thanks the abandons
14:17:16 <elodilles> we got some review from PTLs / release liaisons already \o/
14:17:42 <frickler> maybe take these into consideration https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/config-errors?branch=stable%2Fyoga
14:17:45 <elodilles> yepp, as we discussed, I've abandoned those that had no functional changes, hence no need for a release
14:18:45 <elodilles> frickler: oh, yes, those might cause some release-job-failure anyway, so good idea to skip them
14:19:01 <elodilles> if no fixes land for the zuul errors
14:19:25 <frickler> although those projects cannot have any patches merged anyway
14:20:37 <elodilles> #info yoga convenience release before EM: consider skipping deliverables with zuul config errors: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/config-errors?branch=stable%2Fyoga
14:20:58 <elodilles> frickler: yepp, gates are clearly broken for them
14:21:21 <elodilles> frickler: i wouldn't be surprised if their master branch was also broken, to be honest...
14:22:40 <frickler> list of errors for master is a bit shorter
14:23:09 <elodilles> ++
14:23:28 <fungi> cinder eol'ing their em branches is also likely to cause a lot of job config errors other projects are going to need to clean up
14:23:39 <elodilles> nevertheless, the yoga release patches are there, so they will get reviews / we need to review them as they got reviews
14:24:22 <elodilles> fungi: good point, the new EM replacement process might have some effect on the yoga transition
14:24:46 <fungi> sure. on that note, a reminder to keep an eye on (and provide feedback for) the evolving proposal to drop "extended maintenance" if stable branch topics are of interest: #link https://review.opendev.org/888771
14:24:56 <elodilles> i mean, cinder + EM reminded me to the EM process change o:)
14:25:53 <elodilles> fungi: thanks for the link! yes, we need to follow that resolution
14:26:31 <elodilles> anything else to add regarding this task?
14:27:09 <hberaud> nope
14:27:56 <elodilles> ok, next task then:
14:28:17 <elodilles> 3rd task from R-10: 'add an independent deliverable file for xstatic-angular-fileupload (see week R-13) (elod)'
14:28:27 <elodilles> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385
14:28:33 <elodilles> i've created the patch ^^^
14:28:47 <hberaud> ack
14:28:57 <elodilles> and Vishal already updated with a release as well
14:29:16 <hberaud> nice
14:29:45 <elodilles> we have to keep an eye on this one as i see some errors in the validator job about missing things
14:30:52 <elodilles> hopefully with the proper hash and yaml format those will be sorted out
14:31:25 <elodilles> and that were all the tasks for R-12 and R-10
14:31:48 <elodilles> #topic Assign R-8 week tasks
14:32:06 <elodilles> actually, I've added myself as meeting chair,
14:32:29 <elodilles> and thus added my name to the tasks as hberaud will be on vacation that week
14:32:59 <elodilles> so all tasks taken
14:33:07 <hberaud> thanks
14:33:13 <elodilles> np
14:33:15 <elodilles> #topic Review countdown email
14:33:22 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:33:40 <elodilles> OK, so we have to edit this on the fly with the list of deliverables
14:34:51 <hberaud> the link is not necessary
14:35:02 <hberaud> as no patches have been generated
14:35:03 <elodilles> yepp, let me delete it
14:37:04 <hberaud> the next sentence should be updated too
14:39:14 <opendevreview> Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/releases master: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload first release via the releases repo  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385
14:40:07 <elodilles> OK, something like that.
14:40:29 <elodilles> is the mail content acceptable?
14:40:36 <hberaud> LGTM
14:41:02 <elodilles> ACK
14:41:10 <elodilles> then I'll send it after the meeting
14:41:22 <hberaud> I think we have to add the teams in the email subject
14:41:48 <elodilles> i don't want to pollute the countdown mail subject with team names, to be honest
14:41:51 <hberaud> [ironic][swift][openstackclient]
14:41:56 <armstrong> Email looks good
14:41:58 <hberaud> as you want
14:42:24 <elodilles> yeah, in the past we sent separate mail with the model change
14:42:43 <hberaud> ok
14:43:37 <elodilles> considering that ironic, swift, and openstacksdk got the same question time to time and they never wanted a model change, i think we don't need to push them
14:43:47 <hberaud> ok
14:43:49 <hberaud> wfm
14:43:55 <elodilles> thanks
14:44:07 <elodilles> #topic Open Discussion
14:44:24 <elodilles> we don't have anything mentioned on the pad
14:44:37 <hberaud> I've nothing on my end
14:45:39 <hberaud> I'll be OOO from friday next week for 3 weeks
14:45:49 <elodilles> fungi's point about the zuul config errors that will come when cinder EOL's all their EM branches (up to xena) is a good warning though
14:45:52 <hberaud> and I'll be fully afk
14:46:17 <elodilles> hberaud: that sounds a nice long summer vacation, enjoy your free time! :)
14:46:25 <hberaud> thanks
14:46:28 <fungi> mainly just check those early and don't let them take you by surprise later at a less convenient time
14:46:57 <elodilles> fungi: ++
14:47:07 <elodilles> thanks
14:48:17 <elodilles> it should be "easy" to fix though as instead of the branches <series>-eol tags should be used for cinder repo checkout
14:48:25 <elodilles> (famous last words? o:))
14:48:38 <elodilles> anyway, we will see
14:49:27 <elodilles> i'll might be also off for some days in august, but i don't have big plans ahead...
14:50:08 <elodilles> okay, if there is no other topic to discuss, then let's not waste our time and let's end the meeting!
14:51:47 <elodilles> thanks everyone for participating & see you in 2 weeks at the usual meating time on Friday 14:00 UTC @ Aug 11th (note that next week's meeting is marked as 'skipped'!)
14:51:53 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
14:51:54 <elodilles> #endmeeting