14:01:52 <ttx> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:02:03 <hberaud> o/
14:02:06 <ttx> Looks like the lag is larger today
14:02:15 <ttx> Alright, let's get going
14:02:39 <ttx> Ping list: hberaud armstrong elodilles
14:02:45 <elodilles> ~o~
14:02:55 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-relmgt-tracking
14:03:08 <armstrong> o/
14:03:12 <ttx> down to line...252
14:03:22 <ttx> #topic Review task completion
14:03:32 <ttx> Generate a list of intermediary-released service deliverables that have not done a release in this cycle yet and propose release model change for them (ttx)
14:03:34 <elodilles> R-9. scary
14:03:53 <ttx> I did find a bunch but most of them have already responded in previous years
14:04:09 <ttx> vitrage however looked like a good candidate
14:04:15 <opendevreview> Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/871280
14:04:18 <ttx> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/870539
14:04:47 <ttx> waiting for a second +2
14:05:02 <elodilles> PTL approved, so I guess we can proceed
14:05:09 <ttx> Propose convenience releases for Xena to ease the transition of Xena to Extended Maintenance and avoid rush and broken releases when the transition deadline is coming (hberaud)
14:05:10 <elodilles> with the merge
14:05:30 <opendevreview> Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Yoga  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/871281
14:06:06 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:xena-stable
14:06:21 <ttx> anything to add?
14:06:24 <elodilles> there have been many releases \o/ thanks hberaud for proposing these
14:06:29 <opendevreview> Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Xena  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/871282
14:06:30 <hberaud> nope
14:06:48 <ttx> and... I'll send the countdown email after this meeting
14:06:48 <elodilles> good to see that some projects are active on their stable branches
14:07:00 <ttx> #topic Review countdown email
14:07:18 <elodilles> will it be the 'Between Milestone-2 and Milestone-3' one?
14:07:22 <ttx> Need to copy it over, sorry
14:08:05 <ttx> actually
14:08:14 <ttx> I did cover those in separate emails
14:08:28 <ttx> not sure it's worth sending one for this week
14:08:49 <ttx> only vitrage got flagged and that was +1ed already
14:09:06 <ttx> thoughts?
14:09:53 <elodilles> if those were all covered, then let's skip the mail
14:09:59 <hberaud> +1
14:10:26 <ttx> ok
14:10:40 <ttx> #topic Assign next week tasks
14:10:54 <ttx> all set
14:10:58 <elodilles> i've already took all
14:11:00 <elodilles> taken
14:11:05 <ttx> #topic Assign the next Chair
14:11:09 <ttx> done too
14:11:11 <elodilles> that too o:)
14:11:20 <ttx> #topic Discuss about zaqar's inclusion
14:11:39 <elodilles> (as I had to skip last meeting at the last minute, sorry for that)
14:12:53 <hberaud> gmann: FYI ^
14:13:31 <hberaud> elodilles: np
14:13:58 <ttx> who can summarize the issue?
14:14:36 <elodilles> well, i just read the new (?) info on the tracking page
14:14:45 <hberaud> zaqar is not in good fit and possible it could be a good candidate for inactive project
14:15:06 <elodilles> the last sentence is: "as zaqar team knows the issue and not sure when they will fix it. I think you can take decision on skipping its release and send on ML. After that if no release happening, gate is broken then TC can mark it as Inactive project."
14:15:18 <fungi> the most i know is that zaqar's testing relies on mongodb, which is no longer open source and so has disappeared form the supported platforms for our upcoming release. the attempts to rsolve that have been ongoing since days after the zed release, and at present the project is still unable to merge any new changes, though they're working on dropping mongodb testing aiui
14:15:33 <ttx> I'd rather not be the one deciding to not include it.. ideally that would be a TC decision
14:15:49 <ttx> we are not empowered to make that type of decision
14:16:07 <ttx> (dropping a deliverable from the next release)
14:16:17 <elodilles> on the other hand we are quite late
14:16:37 <hberaud> elodilles: +1
14:16:38 <elodilles> so a decision should be made very quickly i guess
14:17:12 <fungi> it was brought to the tc's attention as a risk over winter holidays, but didn't get much traction at the time (mostly due to everyone being away or preoccupied, i think)
14:17:27 <fungi> year-end holidays i mean
14:17:40 <fungi> (northern-hemisphere winter)
14:18:34 <fungi> it initially came to my attention when another project reported having to drop zaqar integration testing in order to be able to continue merging changes
14:19:19 <ttx> fungi: was a patch proposed to mark it inactive?
14:19:28 <ttx> MayIf not maybe we should push that
14:19:33 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/870098
14:19:38 <ttx> *If
14:19:56 <elodilles> 16:36:29 <gmann> for zaqar decision, I will propose 25 Jan which is next TC meeting to check and decide.
14:20:02 <ttx> OK how about we track status there
14:20:03 <elodilles> i see this in tc meeting log ^^^
14:20:13 <ttx> and wait until next week
14:20:44 <elodilles> yes, let's track the status
14:21:17 <ttx> OK anything else on that topic?
14:21:50 <elodilles> did PTLs respond to Bobcat Schedule?
14:22:07 <ttx> limited response, some did +1
14:22:16 <ttx> not ready to be approved yet
14:22:24 <ttx> #topic Open discussion
14:22:25 <elodilles> ack, thanks
14:22:32 <ttx> I guess we moved to open discussion :)
14:22:38 <elodilles> :]
14:22:43 <elodilles> sorry o:)
14:22:49 <ttx> Fair warning that my February is pretty busy travel-wise
14:23:00 <hberaud> ack
14:23:05 <ttx> I put me name to chair one of the only meetings I'll be attending
14:23:06 <elodilles> ack
14:23:56 <ttx> anything else to discuss?
14:24:10 <elodilles> maybe worth to mention:
14:24:29 <elodilles> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:inactive-release-test
14:24:38 <elodilles> so,
14:24:51 <elodilles> adjutant deliverables were released
14:25:02 <elodilles> and mistral gates are also fixed
14:25:25 <elodilles> so I think the mistral release patches can be merged, too
14:25:25 <ttx> \o/
14:25:35 <elodilles> i've updated them today
14:26:07 <elodilles> am i right that the new PTL is not added to governance repo?
14:26:12 <elodilles> (mistral)
14:26:54 <elodilles> just because in that case we won't get PTL-Approved triggered
14:26:54 <ttx> ok... if nothing else we can close the meeting early
14:27:06 <ttx> ah hm
14:27:15 <fungi> https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/reference/projects.yaml#L732
14:27:18 <fungi> mistral is dpl
14:27:24 <fungi> according to the current data anyway
14:27:34 <ttx> we might want to add their release liaison for sure
14:27:46 <fungi> they have two release liaisons listed
14:28:19 <elodilles> i can prepare the governance patch if that doesn't exist
14:28:45 <avanzaghi> mistral is still DPL for this cycle I can confirm
14:28:46 <fungi> what needs patching in governance?
14:28:52 <elodilles> fungi: those are former liaisons and quite inactive :/
14:28:56 <fungi> oh
14:29:01 <elodilles> * they
14:29:50 <elodilles> avanzaghi: i'll prepare a patch to add you as release liaison if taht's OK
14:30:00 <fungi> https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-December/031417.html
14:30:19 <fungi> linked from comments in proposed governance change https://review.opendev.org/866562
14:30:43 <elodilles> and thanks for your efforts & fixing the gates :)
14:30:56 <fungi> so yes, probably worth getting gmann to revisit since that comment was from 2022-12-07
14:31:53 <elodilles> avanzaghi: if you could review the mistral release patches that would be awesome: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:inactive-release-test
14:32:25 <avanzaghi> right I'll look at it
14:32:42 <elodilles> and if everything is OK then I think we should release them. ttx hberaud : is that OK?
14:32:57 <hberaud> WFM
14:32:58 <ttx> yes
14:33:01 <elodilles> \o/
14:33:02 <elodilles> thanks
14:33:18 <ttx> Alright, anything else to discuss?
14:33:53 <elodilles> nothing else from me for now
14:34:00 <hberaud> nope
14:34:11 <ttx> ok then
14:34:14 <ttx> #endmeeting