15:00:04 <smcginnis> #startmeeting releaseteam
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15:00:08 <ttx> o/
15:00:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'
15:00:12 <fungi> mmmeeting
15:00:14 <smcginnis> ping dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx
15:00:20 <lbragstad> o/
15:00:33 <smcginnis> Morning fungi and lbragstad o/
15:01:11 <smcginnis> dhellmann is on vacation. We'll see if any other folks show up. Might be a quick one today. \o/
15:01:30 <ttx> yep
15:01:31 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda
15:01:39 <smcginnis> Hey ttx.
15:01:53 <smcginnis> OK, I'm guessing that will be it today.
15:02:05 <smcginnis> Currently line 171 in the etherpad.
15:02:23 * ildikov is lurking :)
15:02:40 * smcginnis shines the spotlight on ildikov :)
15:02:44 <smcginnis> OK...
15:02:52 <smcginnis> #topic Missing q-2.
15:03:07 <smcginnis> I'll be honest, I haven't run a check yet.
15:03:26 * ttx checks
15:03:30 <smcginnis> I'm a little afraid to actually. It seemed a little light this past week.
15:03:49 <ttx> From those who did q1, only trove missing
15:04:00 <ttx> from quick glance at https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html
15:04:03 <smcginnis> OK, that's not too bad.
15:04:11 <ttx> BUt there might be some who missed both
15:04:25 <smcginnis> That's what I am more concerned about.
15:05:00 <smcginnis> ttx: So any of those are out of the coordinated Queens release per our policy, correct?
15:05:01 <ttx> Notes from R-18 doesn't seem to point to any, did you have the list from back then?
15:05:13 <ttx> smcginnis: that's the theory
15:05:23 <smcginnis> ttx: I think there were just a handful actually.
15:05:34 <ttx> might be the same handful though
15:05:43 * ttx digs deeper
15:05:48 <smcginnis> ttx: Any repercussions as far as being under governance?
15:07:13 <ttx> actually I think they are all in
15:07:36 <smcginnis> Oh good.
15:07:43 <ttx> the 4 that missed all hit b2
15:08:03 <ttx> senlin searchlight freezer blazar
15:08:22 <smcginnis> Yep, those all look familiar. I had contacted the PTLs directly after q1.
15:08:43 <smcginnis> Just for future reference, what all does happen if a project misses two milestones?
15:08:58 <smcginnis> I'm not sure I've seen that spelled out in documentation.
15:09:10 <ttx> in theory, is not included in the release. Then the TC reviews team for removal
15:09:50 <ttx> "is not included in the release" meaning we won't process a b3 or rc
15:10:01 <ttx> since we don't trust that team to be able to complete the rc process
15:10:12 <smcginnis> So up to the discussion in the TC as far as removal as an official project?
15:10:19 <ttx> yes
15:10:31 <smcginnis> OK, good to know. Thanks!
15:11:00 <smcginnis> #info All projects that missed q1 were able to do a q2 release
15:11:12 <ttx> afaict
15:11:18 <smcginnis> #topic Open Discussion
15:11:20 <ttx> might be worth to run a proper check
15:11:42 <ttx> So I've been looking into my January and it looks like I'll be traveling during FF week with limited availability
15:11:42 <ildikov> I have a quick question
15:11:44 <smcginnis> ttx: Maybe one of those things that we just need to figure out how we want to handle it when and if we get there.
15:11:53 <ttx> as will fungi and clarkb
15:12:01 <ttx> (week of jan 22)
15:12:02 <smcginnis> ttx: Foundation off site?
15:12:05 <ttx> yes
15:12:09 <fungi> yup
15:12:24 <smcginnis> OK, thanks for the heads up.
15:12:28 <smcginnis> ildikov: What's up?
15:13:01 <ildikov> I got pinged by the Release Manager of OPNFV, he would like to learn a bit more about our release models
15:13:03 <ttx> we'll need to make sure we have other infra-root around on that week
15:13:13 <smcginnis> ttx: ++
15:13:16 <ildikov> so I wanted to ask if anyone here would be willing/available to chat with him?
15:13:21 <ttx> smcginnis: wanna take those questions, or should I ?
15:13:30 <ildikov> he's particularly interested in the independent release model
15:14:08 <smcginnis> ttx: I know you still have a deeper understanding of everything and better background on the why's of it, but I can if you want me to.
15:14:10 <fungi> i find that relatively amusing, given that independent release model is our least structured one
15:14:23 <smcginnis> fungi: True! ;)
15:14:39 <ttx> it's our "whatever, dude" model
15:14:43 <fungi> it's pretty much just the catch-all for projects which perform releases without following a group cadence
15:14:46 <smcginnis> ildikov: Do you know where they are located?
15:15:25 <ildikov> smcginnis: somewhere in the US, my guess is Central Time
15:16:00 <smcginnis> ildikov: Cool. Yeah, you can share my email with them. Then we can either discuss over email, or if they want to talk it would be easy for me to call or hangout.
15:16:16 <ildikov> smcginnis: sure, thank you
15:16:28 <smcginnis> ildikov: Is it true there are not going to be OPNFV summits anymore?
15:17:20 <fungi> are they rolling that into the linux foundation's "open networking summit"?
15:17:22 <ildikov> smcginnis: Yes, LF is consolidating some of the efforts so Open Networking Summit will be the place for the networking projects to get together
15:17:44 <ildikov> fungi: yes, ONS will be the big thing from that perspective next year
15:17:49 <fungi> got it
15:17:50 <ildikov> fungi: we will see how it works out
15:18:02 <smcginnis> OK. Well, if we are ever at the same events, the cross-community discussions we've had with k8s and other have been great. Would love to include them in a future one if we can.
15:18:24 <fungi> #link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-north-america-2018/
15:18:40 <fungi> los angeles in march
15:18:45 <ildikov> smcginnis: +1
15:19:04 <smcginnis> Hmm. Would be interesting to go, but I would probably have a hard time justifying that one.
15:19:26 <smcginnis> Anything else we want to cover in the meeting?
15:19:49 <ttx> nothing else here
15:19:53 <lbragstad> i'm good
15:20:17 <smcginnis> OK, thanks everyone. Have a good weekend.
15:20:35 <smcginnis> #endmeeting