14:00:17 <dhellmann> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:00:48 <dhellmann> courtesy ping: ttx, dims, tonyb, stevemar, fungi
14:00:56 <fungi> hey-o
14:01:15 <stevemar> howdy
14:01:39 <dhellmann> I see ttx left his regrets in a PM
14:01:48 <dhellmann> so, looks like it's just us tody
14:01:58 <dhellmann> automation status
14:02:05 <fungi> he doesn't know what he's missing
14:02:07 <dhellmann> oops
14:02:11 <dhellmann> #topic automation status
14:02:24 <dhellmann> given how little sleep I got last night, this should be an interesting meeting
14:02:29 <fungi> hah
14:02:48 <dhellmann> fungi: what's the word on the launchpad lib setup? I know there have been some fires to fight since last week
14:03:08 <fungi> #link https://review.openstack.org/356666 Add LP creds and launchpadlib to signing job node
14:03:22 <dhellmann> \o/
14:03:26 <fungi> that and its dependency ought to get you access to tweak bugs at release
14:03:44 <dhellmann> ok, nice
14:03:58 <fungi> #link https://review.openstack.org/353692 Set up HTTPS for releases.openstack.org site
14:04:25 <fungi> that's a dependency for the documentation of the key fingerprint, which i haven't finished writing yet
14:05:12 <fungi> i don't think i have any other updates
14:05:26 <fungi> and yeah, fires
14:05:40 <dhellmann> iirc, the tagging part of the job did work but it didn't test updating requirements by submitting a patch, so we have one more aspect to test after the launchpad stuff is working
14:05:59 <fungi> sounds right
14:06:04 <dhellmann> given where we are in the release cycle, I'm a bit reluctant to start changing the release process
14:06:09 <dhellmann> we have time to think about that, though
14:06:57 <fungi> makes sense
14:07:12 <dhellmann> when it works for tagging and launchpad, we could turn it on for the server projects, since we'll be in a freeze for libraries and requirements
14:07:22 <fungi> it's taken me longer to get to some of this than i anticipated
14:07:31 <fungi> still getting the hang of this ptl thing
14:07:44 <dhellmann> heh, yeah, lots of little details that constantly change
14:08:28 <dhellmann> it seems like we might make it for server projects this cycle, and we're pretty likely to make it for first milestone next cycle, so a bit later than hoped but still not bad
14:08:37 <dhellmann> we're making progress on it, so I'm happy
14:09:00 <dhellmann> moving on
14:09:01 <dhellmann> #topic availability for tagging during lib freeze next week
14:09:22 <dhellmann> ttx and I will both be on the road at openstack east next week
14:09:40 <stevemar> dhellmann: i'll join you on wednesday there :)
14:09:58 <dhellmann> stevemar : nice!
14:10:07 <dhellmann> I'll be actively monitoring requests for releases, but I expect delays
14:10:34 <dhellmann> I was hoping to catch up with dims on whether he was coming. I'll get in touch after the meeting
14:10:57 <dhellmann> #topic summit space needs
14:11:06 <dhellmann> we typically have 1 fishbowl session and 1 meetup session for the release team
14:11:25 <dhellmann> I think the meetup session is our more productive time, and the fishbowl is our chance to talk about major new plans
14:11:41 <dhellmann> I don't think we have any major plans for ocata, so I'm not sure we need to have that session
14:11:43 <dhellmann> thoughts?
14:12:23 <fungi> sounds fine--expect me to attend
14:12:24 <stevemar> how was the attendance at meetup and fb last summit?
14:12:59 <dhellmann> the meetup had a mix of requirements and release folks. all the right people were in the room at some point, though maybe not the the whole time.
14:13:05 <dhellmann> it went well, so I definitely want to keep that
14:13:10 <stevemar> ++
14:13:20 <dhellmann> it's our chance to put together the long planning list we work from for the entire cycle
14:13:28 <fungi> yeah, for meetup overlap with infra, just send word when/where i'm needed
14:13:41 <dhellmann> the fishbowl was well-attended, but not by many liaisons or ptls, irrc
14:13:43 <fungi> worked out pretty well in austin anyway
14:14:15 <dhellmann> fungi : yeah, we're all only going to have friday afternoon so we'll have to coordinate more tightly, either start with or finish with anything we need to overlap on
14:14:18 <fungi> the fishbowl had a lot of cross-project and horizontal team folks
14:14:28 <dhellmann> yeah, that's true
14:14:42 <fungi> but yeah, not much representation from the vertical teams
14:15:09 <fungi> which, unforunately, is where most of the communication breakdown happens too
14:15:35 <dhellmann> I'll run it past ttx and dims to see what they think, we have time to decide.
14:15:44 <dhellmann> it might be best to keep it and keep trying to communicate that way
14:16:17 <fungi> maybe some more creative scheduling can drive more representation into the room
14:16:25 <fungi> like overlap with all boring sessions ;)
14:16:48 <dhellmann> fungi : would it make sense to ask for a work session to handle any infra overlap? it might be easier to schedule that way.
14:17:15 <fungi> i'd be fine with that. happy to put it as an infra session too if desired
14:17:35 <fungi> i agree it would make coordination easier
14:17:57 <dhellmann> ok, let's plan on doing that one way or the other to ensure we have time to wrap things up
14:18:04 <fungi> wfm
14:18:57 <dhellmann> cool
14:18:58 <dhellmann> #topic proposed ocata schedule
14:19:03 <dhellmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214
14:19:09 <dhellmann> that's up as an fyi, dates are not firm yet
14:20:06 <dhellmann> tonyb pointed out that I started from the wrong week, so I need to look at that again
14:20:14 <dhellmann> the *end* dates are closer to right than the start dates
14:20:43 <dhellmann> #topic open discussion
14:20:47 <dhellmann> that's all I had for this week
14:20:57 <dhellmann> has anything else come up that we need to cover?
14:21:44 <dhellmann> ok, taking silence for "no", I think we can call the meeting
14:21:54 <dhellmann> thank you fungi & stevemar
14:22:14 <stevemar> thanks, i'm just here spectating :)
14:22:32 <dhellmann> heh
14:22:44 <dhellmann> get back to work, then!
14:22:49 <dhellmann> #endmeeting