19:00:09 <catherine_d|1> #startmeeting refstack 19:00:11 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 20 19:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherine_d|1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:12 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:00:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' 19:01:32 <pvaneck> o/ 19:01:43 <Rockyg> o/ 19:02:04 <luzC> o/ 19:02:26 <catherine_d|1> #link meeting agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-20 19:03:07 <andrey-mp> o/ 19:03:42 <catherine_d|1> hi everyone ... 19:04:01 <catherine_d|1> first of all, I will be out of the office next week ... 19:05:05 <catherine_d|1> we can cancel the meeting or one of you can help to run the meeting if we need to meet .. 19:05:35 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: do you get the agneda link? 19:05:54 <andrey-mp> catherine_d|1 yes 19:06:03 <catherine_d|1> great ... 19:06:18 <andrey-mp> i'll be on vacation too next week 19:06:39 <luzC> andrey-mp agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-20 19:06:54 <sslypushenko> o/ 19:06:58 <catherine_d|1> looks like it makes sense to skip the meeting next week? 19:07:20 <catherine_d|1> let's decide at the end of this meeting to see whether we need one next week 19:07:43 <catherine_d|1> Let's start ... 19:07:52 <catherine_d|1> #topic Barcelona summit working sessions 19:08:19 <catherine_d|1> we have 2 working sessions on Wednesday fro 5:05 PM to 6:35 PM 19:08:45 <catherine_d|1> as far as I know there is no conflict with EC2API or DefCore 19:09:03 <catherine_d|1> BTW, who is going to the summit? 19:09:11 <catherine_d|1> I am going 19:09:23 <luzC> I'm going too 19:09:26 <sslypushenko> me - not( 19:09:42 <catherine_d|1> sslypushenko: :-( 19:10:09 <Rockyg> I am 19:10:53 <catherine_d|1> I know pvaneck: is .. How about andrey-mp: ? 19:11:24 <andrey-mp> we do 19:11:49 <catherine_d|1> So I started a etherpad for the sessions .. pls add any topic you think we should discuss .. 19:12:21 <catherine_d|1> #link RefStack Barcelona summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-ocata-summit 19:12:43 <catherine_d|1> luzC: seems like the tempest conf blueprint is a good one 19:13:13 <catherine_d|1> moving on ... 19:13:45 <catherine_d|1> #topic Enable vendor/product registration on RefStack website 19:14:17 <catherine_d|1> before that we should merge the feature/vendor code to master ... 19:14:46 <catherine_d|1> there are few more patches needed ... 19:15:42 <catherine_d|1> currently we schedule to have those code merged to feature/vendor on Oct 7 19:16:30 <andrey-mp> can defcore approve specs? 19:17:24 <catherine_d|1> The patches to be submitted should provide features incliude in this PoC http://refstack.mybluemix.net/#/ 19:18:47 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: Egle (she is the co-chair) did we should remind other DefCore members again .... 19:19:32 <catherine_d|1> luzC: Rockyg: I will not be at the DefCore meeting ... could you remind other members to approve ? 19:19:51 <Rockyg> yes 19:20:06 <catherine_d|1> luzC: Rockyg: including YOU of course 19:20:06 <luzC> yes 19:20:30 <catherine_d|1> I do not think they have meeting link for tomorrow yet 19:21:32 <catherine_d|1> luzC: pls help to add the 2 links to the DefCore agenda when it becomes available .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ 19:21:36 <Rockyg> yup 19:21:55 <luzC> I will 19:22:05 <Rockyg> I think the ethepad came out last wednesday. Lemme check 19:22:24 <catherine_d|1> I really hope that we can roll out the vendor/product registration feature at the Barcelona summit 19:22:36 <catherine_d|1> Rockyg: thx 19:22:52 <Rockyg> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.18 19:23:23 <catherine_d|1> Rockyg: thx 19:23:29 <luzC> yes... etherpad is still empty but will update it when available :) 19:23:37 <luzC> Rockyg thanks :) 19:23:52 <catherine_d|1> luzC: thx 19:24:07 <catherine_d|1> moving on ... 19:24:10 <Rockyg> Yup get the links out just below the defcore ones so maybe people review ahead od the meeting 19:24:40 <catherine_d|1> #topic Pending reviews 19:25:08 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: thx for merging the version UI patch 19:25:23 <andrey-mp> no problem 19:26:21 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: I see that you abandon yoiur other patches ... I hope you will update them later to the latest implementation ... those patches of yours are valuable to the users .. 19:26:45 <catherine_d|1> #link Add ability to associate product version to test ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367034/ ) 19:26:58 <andrey-mp> yeah, anyone can restore it if needed 19:27:14 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: OK will do 19:28:03 <catherine_d|1> for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367034/ .. I put a comment .. perhaps pvaneck: can respond later .. 19:28:35 <pvaneck> pvaneck: yea, I will get back on that patch 19:28:42 <pvaneck> woops: catherine_d|1 19:28:49 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: do you have chance to review it ? Of course, we could not merge this one until the spec is reviewed by DefCore and merged 19:29:22 <andrey-mp> i'm waiting for spec - review of api code is no so long 19:29:34 <catherine_d|1> andrey-mp: OK 19:29:54 <catherine_d|1> The next two patches are the specs ... 19:30:19 <catherine_d|1> luzC: will help to ask more DefCore members to review ... ... 19:30:23 <catherine_d|1> luzC: thx 19:30:32 <luzC> NP ;) 19:30:46 <luzC> I'll make time to review the patches as well 19:31:00 <catherine_d|1> The next two patches are luzC: 's 19:31:49 <catherine_d|1> luzC: anything you want to share with us here on the 2 patches ? 19:32:07 <luzC> one of them is the spec... I think we agree on that one... not sure the next step to actually merge it/ approve it 19:32:14 <catherine_d|1> #link Added Defcore additional properties waiver ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/ ) --> spec 19:32:31 <catherine_d|1> #link Implement additional properties Defcore waiver ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ ) 19:32:45 <luzC> actually https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ is the spec 19:33:19 <catherine_d|1> yea .. everyone .. Let's review the spec again and merge it ... 19:33:29 <catherine_d|1> I will do that before I leave this afternoon 19:34:10 <luzC> thanks... 19:34:19 <luzC> about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/ 19:34:42 <luzC> its almost all the functionality if you can help me with some reviews as well 19:34:50 <catherine_d|1> luzC: For the implementation, I have not reviewd in details ... but I like that you create a separate file 19:35:35 <luzC> I'm adding a second patch to include missing parts (creating a zip bundle, documentation, etc) 19:36:06 <catherine_d|1> #action RefStack memebers to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/ 19:36:18 <pvaneck> sure 19:37:59 <catherine_d|1> I am always concerned about code cleanup after it is obsoleted .. a separate file help .. 19:38:27 <catherine_d|1> anything else on this topic? 19:38:35 <luzC> not on my end 19:38:53 <catherine_d|1> let's move on ... 19:39:28 <catherine_d|1> #topic Tempest Configurator: file creation 19:40:00 <catherine_d|1> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/defcore-tempest-configuration-spec 19:40:35 <catherine_d|1> I do not think any of us have a chance to review this yet ... 19:40:57 <luzC> I just added based on an email from Gema 19:41:04 <sslypushenko> catherine_d|1: heh, finally ! 19:41:11 <catherine_d|1> luzC: thx 19:41:36 <sslypushenko> it will a great move forward) 19:41:37 <luzC> I have some concerns related to the questions/support that will generate in case it lands on refstack-client 19:41:56 <catherine_d|1> My only concern about having a tempest conf creation script is ... does the script work on all cases> 19:42:35 <catherine_d|1> and if it does not ... like luzC: I am concerned about supporting it .. 19:42:51 <Rockyg> I also have a concern in that this is also starting to be a thing again in Rally. So, we should coordinate/get them to review, maybe? 19:43:54 <catherine_d|1> Rockyg: absolutely .... I also know that Redhat also have some script ... I do not have a link handy ... I can dig it out 19:44:23 <luzC> just today on qa channel there was a person asking about tempest configuration... he was using a config_tempest.py from RDO which didn't have all the config options so it was missed configured for his environment 19:44:38 <luzC> and tempest was not working 19:44:57 <catherine_d|1> there is also this one http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-September/001240.html 19:45:20 <catherine_d|1> all solution I have seen so far does not work for all cases ... 19:45:49 <catherine_d|1> luzC: that is exactly what I am saying 19:46:02 <catherine_d|1> the solution I see so far does not work for all cases ... 19:46:45 <catherine_d|1> it is very difference in providing script that does not work ... comparing to provide best practice advises 19:46:59 <catherine_d|1> so I am very concerned about the supporting issues 19:47:07 <luzC> agree 19:47:28 <catherine_d|1> For example ... today I receie a email saying 19:47:37 <sslypushenko> but somebody should take care of it at least 19:47:38 <catherine_d|1> I got the following error when i trying to run test. Could you please help me about that? 19:48:10 <catherine_d|1> root@tariku-Latitude-E5440:~/refstack-client# ./refstack-client test -c ./tempest.conf --test-list test.list Traceback (most recent call last): File "./refstack-client", line 31, in <module> raise SystemExit(getattr(test, args.func)()) File "/root/refstack-client/refstack_client/refstack_client.py", line 398, in test keystone_config = self._get_keystone_config(self.conf) File "/root 19:48:48 <catherine_d|1> since this is our script so we should help ... but the root of the problem here maybe the config file format itself ... 19:48:52 <luzC> we could have a FAQ with common issues or a "How to configure manually" 19:49:04 <catherine_d|1> luzC: ++ 19:50:04 <luzC> we should acknowledge that we might get a lot of this questions 19:50:21 <catherine_d|1> we should do that ... but provide a script is a different issue beause if provide one it should work ... and if does not wrok we need to debug ... but we do not have accesss to those cloud ... 19:50:51 <catherine_d|1> so guidance is one thing ... expectation is a different thing .. 19:51:07 <catherine_d|1> anyway .. I think this is a good topic for the summit ... 19:51:25 <Rockyg> Maybe we include a url in the error message that points to a coomon problem wiki or web page? 19:51:34 <catherine_d|1> Rockyg: ++ 19:51:36 <Rockyg> common 19:51:56 <catherine_d|1> totally agree 19:52:21 <Rockyg> it would be great to use ask.openstack, but I don't think it is back to a usable state yet. 19:52:48 <catherine_d|1> Rockyg: I think we could have Q/A sessions on the RefStack website 19:53:27 <luzC> I added the topic on Barcelona summit agenda :) 19:53:49 <sslypushenko> I guess step-by-step wizard can handle with issue 19:55:26 <catherine_d|1> sslypushenko: we can do that for what we know today ... the issues is we may not know all cases ... since we are now testing real world clouds !! 19:55:43 <catherine_d|1> luzC: thx a lot! 19:55:56 <catherine_d|1> anything else? 19:56:58 <catherine_d|1> Pls actively review whenever there is new patch ... I really hope that we can enable vendor/product registration at Barcelona summit 19:57:31 <catherine_d|1> alrigjt that should be all for today ... 19:57:38 <catherine_d|1> thank you all for your time ! 19:57:45 <luzC> thank you :) 19:58:01 <catherine_d|1> #endmeeting