19:00:57 <catherineD> #startmeeting refstack
19:00:57 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 24 19:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:01:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack'
19:01:08 <catherineD> roll call
19:01:16 <pvaneck> o/
19:01:20 <Rockyg> o/
19:02:04 <catherineD> sslypushenko: told me that he may not be able to attend today due to traveling ...
19:02:05 <sslypushenko> o/
19:02:10 <catherineD> sslypushenko: Hi
19:02:25 <catherineD> thought you are traveling?  That is great ...
19:02:31 <catherineD> that you can attend ...
19:02:41 <sslypushenko> but my connection is very sloooow and unstable)
19:02:58 <catherineD> sslypushenko: np ... I am really glad that you can attend ...
19:03:07 <catherineD> #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-08-24
19:03:23 <catherineD> #topic Relocate RefStack Project
19:04:32 <catherineD> #info To recap RefStack was approved to move to the openstack-infra repository .. but the Foundation staff general consensus is that Refstack should be a big tent project.
19:05:07 <catherineD> #link so I submit a patch to move RefStack to OpenStack .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213930/
19:05:20 <Rockyg> Man.  wish they could make up the mind.
19:05:48 <catherineD> could you please look at the comment by Thierry Carrez on the link
19:06:30 <sslypushenko> I think infra will be a good final place for Refstack
19:06:33 <catherineD> Rockyg: +1
19:06:43 <hogepodge> o/ (on plane about to depart)
19:06:47 <sslypushenko> because it needs some support
19:07:04 <catherineD> hogepodge: thx for attending ...
19:07:16 <sslypushenko> hogepodge hi!
19:07:54 <Rockyg> Thierry's comment is good.  We need to either expand mission or expand definition of refstack to include more interop
19:07:59 <catherineD> hogepodge: would you be able to take a look at Thierry Carrez 's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213930/
19:08:59 <hogepodge> Are you comfortable being an interop team?
19:09:04 <catherineD> Rockyg: I am thinking of let RefStack be a DefCore supportive tools ... eventually it can be under interops...
19:09:47 <catherineD> I would like to keep our mission focus for now so we can achieve clearly define objective ...
19:09:48 <hogepodge> I think it will be an important and much wanted testing tool
19:10:05 <hogepodge> Ops want it based on meeting last week
19:11:05 <catherineD> hogepodge: in last week's meeting we just tried to define official name for RefStack ..
19:11:33 <catherineD> we agree to use  Use RefStack as project name (not Refstack or refstack)  ..
19:12:11 <catherineD> so I am not ready to rename our project to Interops ... I think it is a much bigger scope ...
19:12:25 <hogepodge> Great. Consistency across rest of ecosystem
19:12:32 <catherineD> we can keep RefStack to be a tool to support DefCore for now ...
19:12:57 <catherineD> please give me your thoughts ...
19:13:29 <hogepodge> Ok. Related to that, non Defcore view might be nice. Just list of passed tests, also non Defcore rendering. I can write up proposal of what I mean
19:13:53 <hogepodge> Will do. I'm about to go afk
19:14:01 <hogepodge> Plane doors closing
19:14:09 <catherineD> hogepodge: thx so much
19:14:16 <hogepodge> Thank you!
19:14:36 <pvaneck> I think keeping refstack just focuesed as a tool for defcore is good for now. still have to refine it enough as it is
19:15:09 <catherineD> Rockyg: I am just afraid that we will loos our focus on what we are doing now ...
19:15:21 <catherineD> loos --> loose
19:15:28 <pvaneck> hogepodge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215759/ this might be related to what you are looking for
19:16:36 <sslypushenko> catherineD +1
19:17:43 <sslypushenko> RefStack should do well some single thing. So we need to keep focus
19:17:46 <catherineD> so I think sslypushenko: pvaneck: are in favor of keeping RefStack to be a test took for DefCore ...
19:18:08 <catherineD> Rockyg: how about you?
19:18:36 <Rockyg> just a sec
19:20:22 <Rockyg> I think we can expand the mission without expanding the current focus.  we are rev 0.1
19:21:30 <catherineD> Rockyg: do we need to rename our project to interops if we expand out mission?
19:21:40 <sslypushenko> Because we are doing some plannig now it is time for some bad news. Foundtion stops funding Mirantis team
19:22:50 <catherineD> sslypushenko: wow :-(   the entire team?
19:23:00 <Rockyg> No. we would still be providing a reference for interop
19:23:03 <catherineD> that is not really good news for us ...
19:23:40 <sslypushenko> So my effors will sagnificantly deccise
19:23:56 <sslypushenko> *decreased
19:24:08 <catherineD> Rockyg: I would love to have you as co-author for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213930/
19:24:52 <sslypushenko> catherineD yeap, entire team.
19:24:59 <catherineD> sslypushenko: we will really miss you ... would you still be able to give reviews ... since you are our core ....
19:25:12 <pvaneck> Yea, would still be nice to have you as a core, sslypushenko, at least for the occasional review or +A
19:25:13 <sslypushenko> Hope so
19:25:43 <sslypushenko> Also I tried to do as mush as possible while I will be on bench
19:26:24 <catherineD> sslypushenko: I know ... you have brought great value to the RefStack team ... we are really sad :-(
19:26:55 <sslypushenko> catherineD Thx) Hope it is temporary
19:27:18 <Rockyg> definitely will miss your focused attention.  You've really moved the quality bar up.
19:27:20 <catherineD> sslypushenko: we are such a small team ... I can't afford to loose anyone ..
19:27:54 <catherineD> Rockyg: let me work with you offline on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213930/ ..
19:28:13 <catherineD> moving to the next topic ...?
19:28:22 <sslypushenko> +1
19:29:01 <catherineD> #topic Infra hosting
19:29:43 <catherineD> #action Rockyg: and catherineD: will work on response to comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213930/
19:29:48 <pvaneck> so this is awaiting changes in our puppet-refstack module
19:30:07 <pvaneck> as we currently fail a jenkins job for our system-config patch
19:30:08 <catherineD> pvaneck: could you provide the patch link ...
19:30:22 <pvaneck> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214950/
19:30:50 <pvaneck> currently working on that patch, but am planning on splitting the cleaning stuff out as yolanda suggested
19:31:15 <catherineD> pvaneck: thx
19:31:33 <catherineD> pvaneck: I guess this will be work in progress then ...
19:31:45 <pvaneck> right
19:31:55 <catherineD> ok thx moving on .,..
19:32:03 <catherineD> #topic Face-2-face meeting
19:32:48 <catherineD> sslypushenko: will you still be able to attend the f2f IRC meeting giving the news that you will have to decrease the time spent on RefStack ..
19:33:48 <sslypushenko> Yeap, I'm going to attenf f2f if I don't go to vacation
19:34:35 <catherineD> sslypushenko: we should not stop you from your vacation ... when is your vacation?
19:35:01 <sslypushenko> I'm still thinking about it)
19:35:06 <catherineD> sslypushenko: We may move the date ...
19:35:12 <sslypushenko> No-no
19:35:20 <Rockyg> sslypushenko, have you considered applying for foundation support for attending Tokyo summit?  being core, you have a good reason
19:35:22 <catherineD> right now if you look at the agenda .. there are 2 topics...
19:37:01 <sslypushenko> Rockyg I thought but Mirantis will fund my attending summit, but now I don't think that it has a real reason
19:37:25 <sslypushenko> but -> that
19:38:19 <catherineD> sslypushenko: you will attend the summit if the speaker session is accepted .. right?
19:39:02 <Rockyg> apply now and don't tell Mirantis.  If Mirantis funds you, you can return the stipend to be given someone else.
19:39:33 <sslypushenko> Hmmm... Ok I'll try)
19:40:16 <sslypushenko> Do someone know anything about vote results?
19:40:21 <catherineD> sslypushenko: really hope  to see  you at the summit ...
19:40:37 <catherineD> sslypushenko: the results will be announced on 8/26 ..
19:40:41 <catherineD> 2 more days
19:40:50 <sslypushenko> Cool
19:41:45 <catherineD> I am seriously wanting to move the f2f dates if sslypushenko: and hogepodge: can not attend ... because
19:42:18 <catherineD> on the f2f agenda: topic non-tempest testing: we need sslypushenko: 's  involvement ... topic DefCore use case:  we need Rob and hogepodge: 's involvment ...
19:42:48 <sslypushenko> +1 for Rob and hogepodge: 's involvment
19:43:00 <Rockyg> ++
19:44:08 <catherineD> I have not heard back from Rob and hogepodge:  ... and since it will be next week ... I really want to re-schedule ... I do not want to waist our time to meet and accomplish nothing
19:44:39 <pvaneck> I think one day is all we need as well
19:45:13 <catherineD> #startvote To re-schedule next week;s  face-2-face meeting
19:45:14 <openstack> Unable to parse vote topic and options.
19:45:31 <catherineD> #startvote To re-schedule next week's  face-2-face meeting
19:45:32 <openstack> Unable to parse vote topic and options.
19:46:18 <catherineD> I still don't know how to do the vote stuff ... pls just tell me yes (to reschedule) or no
19:47:00 <pvaneck> well, if only us two attend, then yes reschedule
19:47:01 <catherineD> no (to keep next week's date)
19:47:30 <catherineD> Rockyg: how about you?
19:48:03 <catherineD> sslypushenko: ?
19:48:21 <Rockyg> reschedule to when?
19:48:41 <sslypushenko> yes if Chris or Rob cann't attend
19:48:42 <catherineD> I need to recheck everyone's calendar again ...
19:48:51 <Rockyg> ok.
19:49:02 <Rockyg> Rescheduling is fine.
19:49:37 <Rockyg> #vote yes
19:50:41 <catherineD> #action Re-schedule next week face-2-face meeting at a date that works for RefStack team members especially hogepodge: and Rob.
19:51:02 <catherineD> thank you all...
19:51:17 <catherineD> #topic OpenStackID integration
19:51:42 <catherineD> All patches merged.  Thanks sslypushenko: for your hardwork !!
19:52:19 <catherineD> Rockyg: we can now upload data with signed users and with that RefStack now supports deleting data ...
19:54:27 <pvaneck> Will continue working on the refinement of the website. Any desired features or bugs should be noted on launchpad.
19:54:29 <Rockyg> kewl!  so once infra is hosting, we'll have full control and everyone will be happier.
19:54:32 <catherineD> #info all patches merged.  User can now upload data with signature and can delete the data if desire.
19:55:13 <catherineD> Rockyg: yup ... with a few  improvment as stated by pvaneck:  ....
19:55:25 <catherineD> 5 mins
19:55:35 <catherineD> #topic Open discussions
19:57:07 <catherineD> Rockyg: pvaneck: is also working on the patches for infra hosting and refinement of the website ...
19:57:24 <catherineD> anything else to discuss?
19:57:50 <pvaneck> i think we are all good
19:58:07 <catherineD> ok
19:58:30 <catherineD> #endmeeting