18:57:35 <davidlenwell> #startmeeting refstack
18:57:36 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May  4 18:57:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:57:40 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack'
18:57:53 <davidlenwell> Today's agenda: 1) Refstack PTL election 2) Recap last week action item 3) Plan for Refstack to demo to DefCore on May 6
18:57:53 <davidlenwell> 4) pending reviews 5)open discussion
18:58:17 <davidlenwell> #topic roll call
19:00:58 <catherine_d|1> o/
19:02:17 <hogepodge> o/
19:02:31 <slypushenko__> o/
19:02:49 <pvaneck> o/
19:03:03 <rockyg> O/
19:03:14 <davidlenwell> #topic 1) Refstack PTL election
19:03:48 <davidlenwell> nobody has reached out to put their name in the ring.. So unless I missed something catherine_d|1 is running unapposed.. which simplifies things..
19:07:28 <davidlenwell> fi there are no objections I'd like to fomalize it now by saying hail to our new overlord ;)   catherine_d|1 I know your are best fit for the job!
19:07:49 <slypushenko__> Fully agreed!
19:08:09 <hogepodge> +1
19:08:19 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: thank you !  I need to learn a lot from you
19:08:19 <davidlenwell> congratulations catherine_d|1
19:08:22 <hogepodge> (+2, +1 workflow)
19:08:41 <rockyg> Yay!
19:09:19 <catherine_d|1> Thank you every one!  As a team, we will make our proejct flies high!!!
19:10:07 <davidlenwell> #topic  2) Recap last week action item
19:10:32 <davidlenwell> 1) Q/A summit session: Chris (UUID) and Catherine (password issue) had added 2 sessions. Status: done
19:11:24 <davidlenwell> hogepodge and catherine_d|1 both added something to the etherpad right?
19:11:33 <catherine_d|1> yes
19:11:49 <davidlenwell> good.. thanks for following though on that ..
19:11:55 <davidlenwell> 2) need to decide on Refstack team face-2-face meeting at the summit. Pick a day for breakfast early in the week. Status: Open
19:12:35 <davidlenwell> I'd like to do this early in the week.. but I'll be flaxible..
19:13:15 <davidlenwell> flexible even
19:13:53 <catherine_d|1> do we know where we should meet?
19:14:25 <davidlenwell> I have no idea.. someones hotel resturant
19:15:52 <davidlenwell> okay .. next up 3) davidlenwell to provide login access for catherine to refstack.net server. Status: (should be done)
19:16:09 <davidlenwell> is done
19:16:20 <rockyg> Kewl
19:16:29 <davidlenwell> http://refstack.net/#/
19:16:37 <davidlenwell> has stuff on it .. sould be good to demo
19:17:03 <davidlenwell> catherine_d|1: is supposed to be uploading more results to it this week
19:17:20 <catherine_d|1> I just uploaded 2 sets of data ...
19:17:34 <davidlenwell> 4) Commit the wsgi file asap.  Sergey's patch was merged (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178712/). Status: Done
19:17:49 <catherine_d|1> thx slypushenko__:
19:18:42 <slypushenko__> catherine_d|1 welcome)
19:18:58 <slypushenko__> davidlenwell Demo looks really good!
19:19:12 <davidlenwell> #topic 3) Plan for Refstack to demo to DefCore on May 6
19:19:32 <davidlenwell> catherine_d|1: would you like to talk here ?
19:19:34 <catherine_d|1> should we meet sometime tomorrow to work on the slides and flow for the demo ...
19:20:40 <davidlenwell> we can meet remotely
19:20:48 <davidlenwell> I'm free in the afternoon
19:20:51 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: as our PTL you will leading the demo to show all our hardwork for the last year  ... we will all be there to charm in ... this is our showtime
19:21:23 <catherine_d|1> what time?  I can send out call in umber and web meeting link //
19:21:32 <davidlenwell> 2pm?
19:22:24 <catherine_d|1> 2 mp is good for me ... how about other people? especcially slypushenko__: hope it is not too late for you ...
19:22:40 <rockyg> Works for me
19:22:53 <catherine_d|1> rockyg: great ...
19:23:04 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: how about you?
19:23:22 <hogepodge> I'll be at the defcore meeting
19:24:08 <slypushenko__> 2pm is very late for me, but it is not a bid deal. I think every thing will be fine without me
19:24:09 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: just want to confirm it is 2:00 pm PDT on Tuesday ..
19:24:25 <davidlenwell> yes
19:24:28 <davidlenwell> confirmed
19:24:51 <catherine_d|1> pvaneck: how about you?
19:25:05 <pvaneck> whenever
19:25:22 <catherine_d|1> ok I will send out invitation and web link
19:25:56 <catherine_d|1> the demo to DefCore will be at 9:00 pdt on Wednesday ... can everyone make it?
19:27:05 <catherine_d|1> 9:00 am pdt
19:27:09 <davidlenwell> by the way .. catherine_d|1.. You're the ptl ;) but I can still run the demo
19:27:38 <slypushenko__> catherine_d|1 +1
19:27:50 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: this is all the hard work for the last year ..
19:28:21 <catherine_d|1> I will be there ..
19:30:09 <davidlenwell> okay .. we'll hit the details then..
19:30:15 <davidlenwell> #topic 4) pending reviews
19:31:54 <davidlenwell> anyone have anything pending that needs the groups attention?
19:32:59 <catherine_d|1> not from the refstack and refstack-client .... but we have some issues with Tempest reviews ...
19:33:11 <davidlenwell> call em out catherine_d|1
19:34:17 <catherine_d|1> Ok right now Refstack (tempest) will not pass a lot of tests in the environment that have stringent password rules ... Thjis will affect most of the public clouds
19:34:59 <catherine_d|1> bugs --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1448217
19:34:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1448217 in tempest "Password is not strong enough failures" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to yuxingw (yuxingw)
19:36:08 <catherine_d|1> there are 2 patches attempt to fix this problem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/
19:36:27 <catherine_d|1> thx slypushenko__: for reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/
19:37:28 <catherine_d|1> we know it will take time for QA to merge them ... what is our possition?  I know some public cloud will face this problem
19:38:12 <catherine_d|1> in short, Refstack/Tempest will not being able to test public cloud ...
19:38:19 <davidlenwell> patience with other teams should always be a high priority
19:39:26 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: but deadline to submit data is May 11 ....  I am thinking you may get some email from public cloud vendors this week ...
19:40:14 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: I have four groups verified passing, one that needs to fix a few tests, and many others in progress.
19:40:42 <slypushenko__> 2_all: I think we have discussed most of important topics... I'm sorry, but I need to go.
19:40:50 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: anyone of them failed because of password issues?
19:41:04 <davidlenwell> thanks slypushenko__!
19:41:11 <catherine_d|1> slypushenko__: thx
19:42:03 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: no
19:42:07 <davidlenwell> lets move on to open discusison
19:42:18 <davidlenwell> #topic 5) open discussion
19:42:31 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: I think we are in open discussion
19:42:54 <davidlenwell> that was still pending reviews
19:43:00 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: anyone of them are true public clouds?  That means that they do not just build a cloud for the test ...
19:43:28 <catherine_d|1> like HP cloud
19:43:43 <catherine_d|1> I think may have problem with password ....
19:44:06 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: not submitted, but a few are in progress.
19:44:23 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: could we count this disussion as open discussion ..
19:44:50 <davidlenwell> yes catherine_d|1
19:45:09 <davidlenwell> talk about anything.. those are the rules :)
19:45:45 <hogepodge> I'd like to see more public clouds. I think it's going to take time, though.
19:45:54 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: ic ... I am interesting to  see whether they will hit this problem ... if they don't it just mean that their password rule in their public cloud are not swith trong rules
19:46:24 <catherine_d|1> with strong rules
19:47:22 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: will we accept testing with the SHA that we define plus pulling code from pending review patches?
19:47:44 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: I mean will OpenStack Foundation accepts ...
19:48:26 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: what do you mean?
19:49:59 <catherine_d|1> say they build the test env with refstack-client ... setup_env (that with default SHA build on April 10) then pull https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ and t https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/ on top of it ..
19:52:12 <hogepodge> It should be from a merged branch of Tempest
19:53:10 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: OK
19:53:26 <hogepodge> If it's a bug-fixing patch, then there's no reason for it not to make it. But I'd hesitate to allow non-approved patches, since there's no guarantee that a patch will make it and would set a precedent to just send changes to get around what could be real interop problems
19:54:54 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: In that case, I think the Refstack/DefCore need to help to set priority for QA to merge t https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/
19:55:43 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: ok
19:55:48 <davidlenwell> okay .. we are reaching the end of our time together here today.. I'd like to offer my ongoing support and congratuations to our new PTL catherine_d|1 .. as always I'm in #refstack and available for reviews or any discussion you'd like..
19:55:49 <catherine_d|1> because sooner or later public vendors will hit it
19:56:24 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: thank you!
19:57:41 <davidlenwell> #endmeeting